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Both of those guys are just as stiff as Gore was. Plus, they have no real angle on Bush. All they can say is, "we can be just as tough as him" or "we would have done things a little differently, but basically the same".
I'd rather see a candidate who can really stand apart from Bush and offer a clear alternative. The only guy who resembles this is Howard Dean. I just don't know if the country is ready for a candidate like him yet.
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