pan6467

First, given the choice between rape, being tortured for days (these men had more than 2 minutes of torture), where I would relive that pain every day for the rest of my life or a relatively fast but painful death, I'm going to take the latter thank you. Ask a woman that was raped brutally and tortured and ask her which she would have preferred.

But what really pisses me off and not just you but an Admin for this board suggesting that the way I answered was an apparent loathing of my country and thusly a self loathing is dispicable. I happen to love myself, my family and my country in that order.

So do not tell me if I say something you dislike tells you I loath myself and my country because I do take that personally. What you are telling me is my opinion and my views if not shared by you are worthless and I must hate myself and my country because ONLY your views show love of country and self.

I answered a question, and I told how I FELT. I am sick and tired of not being able to go to my ancestors homes in Germany and Ireland and Italy without fear. Simply because I am an American and there are jerks here who live with this attitude that the US cannot do any wrong and laugh over torture. Which now added fuel to a war where my friends are now not only run the risk of being killed, but now tortured mercilessly then killed. Thank you Admins and people who supposedly love your country and self and think that the Iraqi torture was all too funny.

Laughing over torture is no better than being the torturer, which IS a form of self loathing because you are taking out your inadequacies on someone else.

Finally if you are implying Berg was Jewish by his last name...... I happen to know a few Bergs that are Catholic.

And if my rant about an admin gets me banned or in trouble then so be it. But noone has the right to tell me views = whether I love myself or not.

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I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"