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Originally posted by blkdmnd
True.
My thoughts are that we, the American people and more importantly the American media, are largely responsible for this atrocity.
We've all heard that there have been far worse things done to Iraqi prisoners, that we will soon see and hear about.
However, what we have seen so far is frankly, pretty tame. Stacking naked guys in a pile? Doesn't sound like torture to me. Making someone stand on a box and telling them that they'll get electrocuted if they step off? Big f'ing deal.
The outrage the American public had to the naked dog pile, has given these beheading assholes fuel for their fire. They want us to start fighting amongst ourselves. It clouds the issue of who the enemy really is and in essence gives their cause credibility. (not that our cause is any better or more credible, at least our cause doesn't call for intentionally killing innocents).
Had we, the American public, not made such a big fuss over this goofy nonsense of what a few loser prison guards did for kicks, they would not have been able to use that against us.
By doing this to Berg and blaming it on what we did to their prisoners, they know they are hitting a nerve and they are attempting (and succeeding if you read the posts on these boards) to drive the wedge further and divide the American public.
It's unfotunate that other agendas come into play and influence decisions.
Also, for anyone to say anything remotely resembling the "we got what we deserved" quote I read somewhere on this board earlier, is absolutely idiotic.
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ok, here goes my rant:
firstly....not all the atrocities occuring in the american prison for iraqi's (abu grad....not sur how it is spelt) have been shown to the public. secondly, other abuses have been showing up in other iraq prisons run by the americans, not just in abu grad. now, lyndy england states that she was trained for the distrubution of mental torture. how unsurpirisng. but to muslims, being naked infront of others is extremely demoralizing!!
and what about the half-dozen or so homicide investigations that are going on regarding deaths at american POW camps? and this is only in iraq... what about afganistan? what about guantanamo bay? have the american people forgotten about that war too? how civilians have been held for over a year, with NO CHARGES laid, and with no contact to their families? what about the fact that no human rights commision has been allowed anywhere near guantanamo? or that other human rights watch have been worried about iraqi prisoners from the get-go?
now, if the american press was allowed to publish such information, i am certain that the american people would join the rest of the world condemming such acts of cruelty and inhumanity.
there is no way that Mr. Berg's murder was justified;
there is no justification for the presence of troops in iraq;
pre-emptive war is not a strategy for freedom, but a strategy for slavery.
no act of abuse can be justified, no matter what the degree, even if it is for information! what a shallow mind it must take to imagine that. and there is still no proof of weapons of mass destruction. there are none. the irai people cannot afford to arm themselves when they were still being bombed by the united states of america.....the bombs havent stopped falling from desert storm, ten years ago. these people do not want or need the americans or the british there....they need countries like canada, the us, the uk to stop trade embargoes and to lift tarriffs so that the once prosperous and educated county can again thrive.
old proverb: "fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity"