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erion · 05-13-2004, 11:28 AM

I can honestly say that, despite the fact that I agree with the judge's ruling, I can also see why people have a problem with it.

Let's look at facts:
The Judge didn't say "No More Sex." he said "No More kids until you can care for the ones you've already produced." The couple will face no sanctions at all unless they produce a fifth offspring before they take responsibility for the first four.

They are not being forced into sterilization, though it was offered to them at no personal expense. What would you choose to pay -- $2000 each right now to prevent or a fifth lifetime of expenses to care for kids fucked up beyond comprehension by being exposed to cocaine in the womb?

No where did the ruling state she'd have to abort the fetus if she did become pregnant. At the very least I would expect them to throw her ass in jail and get her off the drugs so the baby is born healthy before it immediately becomes a ward of the state.

This isn't licensing people to have kids. It's preventing people who have proven beyond any shadow of a reasonable doubt that they have no intention whatsover of caring for kids that they do have from having any more.

If I can't afford car insurance, I can't drive. The state doesn't sponsor insurance for my car. Is that infringing on my rights?

If I can't afford a new PC, I can't get one short of breaking the law. The state doesn't subsidize my PC desires. Does that infringe on my rights?

These stupid fuckers can't afford more kids. The state is already footing the bill for the four kids they've abandoned. I think they're well an truly within the bounds of law and common sense to keep from subsidizing the fruits of the loins of these two morons. For Christ's sake if they want to keep on fucking at least get some goddamned free birth control. All they have to do to keep out of jail is not get her pregnant.

Could this get out of control? Very easily, but I applaud this ruling and sincerely hope it sets precedent for deadbeat dads and welfare reform alike. I honestly see it as being no different than forcing a known drunk driver to breathalyze before his car will start. If you can't be trusted to be responsible, we'll take steps to make sure you don't harm yourself or others.

05-13-2004, 11:28 AM	#49 (permalink)
erion Psycho	I can honestly say that, despite the fact that I agree with the judge's ruling, I can also see why people have a problem with it. Let's look at facts: The Judge didn't say "No More Sex." he said "No More kids until you can care for the ones you've already produced." The couple will face no sanctions at all unless they produce a fifth offspring before they take responsibility for the first four. They are not being forced into sterilization, though it was offered to them at no personal expense. What would you choose to pay -- $2000 each right now to prevent or a fifth lifetime of expenses to care for kids fucked up beyond comprehension by being exposed to cocaine in the womb? No where did the ruling state she'd have to abort the fetus if she did become pregnant. At the very least I would expect them to throw her ass in jail and get her off the drugs so the baby is born healthy before it immediately becomes a ward of the state. This isn't licensing people to have kids. It's preventing people who have proven beyond any shadow of a reasonable doubt that they have no intention whatsover of caring for kids that they do have from having any more. If I can't afford car insurance, I can't drive. The state doesn't sponsor insurance for my car. Is that infringing on my rights? If I can't afford a new PC, I can't get one short of breaking the law. The state doesn't subsidize my PC desires. Does that infringe on my rights? These stupid fuckers can't afford more kids. The state is already footing the bill for the four kids they've abandoned. I think they're well an truly within the bounds of law and common sense to keep from subsidizing the fruits of the loins of these two morons. For Christ's sake if they want to keep on fucking at least get some goddamned free birth control. All they have to do to keep out of jail is not get her pregnant. Could this get out of control? Very easily, but I applaud this ruling and sincerely hope it sets precedent for deadbeat dads and welfare reform alike. I honestly see it as being no different than forcing a known drunk driver to breathalyze before his car will start. If you can't be trusted to be responsible, we'll take steps to make sure you don't harm yourself or others.