irateplatypus

apparently harmlessrabbit in his zeal to find something to counter in my post didn't read my first line.

do you think that by constantly restating that torture is wrong that somehow you've twisted my post into saying torture is right?

thanks for the re-affirmation though.

smooth,

i took your enthusiastic citation of air america as a direct endorsement of that viewpoint. whether you meant it that way or not... the way i read the rest of your post makes it seem that you have no qualms with their analysis. if you cite something without using a full quotation, it's hard to see where there ideas end and your analysis begins. i apologize for any misinterpretation.

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