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Old 05-12-2004, 01:35 PM   #126 (permalink)
Cynthetiq
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Originally posted by kutulu
I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of the people that want to act like it's cut and dry. We're good guys, they are the bad guys. The good guys kill, but only when they have to. The bad guys kill whenever they can.

You can't refute my points and would rather think that we're still fighting the moral war so you say that my post is childish?

Ever since this happened, I've been listening to conservative crap that our enemies are the evil ones and we're just trying to win the war. The abuse, the mysterious deaths, and the vid link of the soldier shooting a defenseless man on the ground (and afterward our "honorable" soldiers cheering) show that we are not on some higher level than the enemy. We are on the same level. The only difference is that they embrace it and we care only when we get caught.

The abuse was not new. We've been talking about it, but never had irrefutable proof that it was going on. There was an investigation, but until the photos came out, so significant action had been taken. Suddenly the press runs the photos and magically we have a soldier being court martialed and several people have been relieved from duty and sent home.

Should we think it's just a coinscidence that these things happened RIGHT after the abuse was shoved in our faces or does it seem like things only happened so quickly because they were caught with their pants down?
actually no, I wasn't trying to refute your point or ANYONE else's points. I was making my own points. I do agree with you killing is killing, but like the argument of getting an SUV safety accident argument, who would you want to survive after an accident? It's absurd to say "When we kill we do it because it's good." is the same as "We are killing because of the evil American Empire which is Allah's wish" (note the REAL definition of the word absurd: logically contradictory)

But there has come to a point where there's been some sort of action/reaction which has been escalating since the end of WWII. This isn't Bush's fault, it's his reaction to it, and that may be his fault, but the terrorism isn't his fault, and the next evil Presidents to come, it will be the same thing, living in the legacy of the creation of a Zionist state surrounded by the Arab states.
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