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Old 05-12-2004, 08:32 AM   #60 (permalink)
Shades
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Jesus Kadath (Hail!),

You don't seem to be able to get it, so I'm going to break it down as granularly as possible.

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Women/minorities don't want more of their kind around, they want a support group.
And that support group is, what, white males? Or is it composed almost exclusively of others of the same minority/gender? Why is someone of the same skin color automagically of the same group? Why do you consistently equate gender and race as a group that we not only could, but SHOULD identify with?

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A white male can swing a cat in an engineering classroom and hit 10 of his group.
Again, who the hell says that some other random white male is part of "his group?" We're not all in the Klan. What is is about "identifying with people based on the false connection of skin color makes you a racist" don't you understand? Even if I went to India where white people are a minority, if I still said "I wish I was surrounded by more good old whities because I don't feel comfortable around these brownies" THAT WOULD MAKE ME A RACIST. In fact, if I was all alone on the Moon, saying or thinking that would STILL make me a racist. Where you are and what proportion of people are part of your "group," as you define them, is completely irrelevant. A racist attitude could exist even in vacuum.

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three (3)
I'm aware that "three" == 3, thanks.

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Get some numbers on the percentage of women in the engineering programs.
It's low. Is it low because AT THE COLLEGE LEVEL they're discouraged from signing up? Let me assure you, the answer is no. By the time you get to college, whatever damage has been done. If you want to really fix it, don't slap a band-aid on at the end of the race. Fix it at the source. If you have any proof that any one of the top, say, 20 (twenty) engineering schools have tried to keep women out in the last however many years back you care to go, you get back to me.
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