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Old 05-11-2004, 11:13 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Originally posted by slvrnblck
You say it is a radical thing to say, but would this man have been beheaded by these losers had it not been for Bush??
you have several unspoken premises in this statement that i disagree with. the most notable is this...

i could just as easily say that this man was beheaded by the terrorists who attacked us on 9-11. if 9-11 had never happened... the chances of the administration choosing to attack iraq/afghanistan or hop in bed w/pakistan are severely diminished.

how far do you want to go back? for my own analysis... i'll just stick with the theory that this man wouldn't have been beheaded if the guys who did it weren't sick bastards who chose to kidnap a civilian and decapitate him.

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Originally posted by slvrnblck
Do you want me to list sources for the 25000+ dead in iraq?? Would that make it less of flame bait.
please. and yes it would. keep in mind that you're on a hunt for 25,000+ iraqi civilian dead.

it's still a sad situation... but even iraqbodycount.com tops the total out at 10,000... and i would expect their estimates to be the most liberal available.

http://www.iraqbodycount.net/editorial_feb0704.htm

on top of that... i'm not even sure how they determine who was a civilian or not. our troops are getting fired at by small children, how do you even quantify that type of threat when totalling innocent casualties?
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