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I find that whenever I disagree with people they take it as a personal attack, so please don't because I am about to.
I disagree with your idea of false. I believe experience is experience, whether it is induced by a drug or whether it is natural. If you feel something, how can it be a fake feeling? The fact that you are feeling it makes it a feeling, a real feeling. Just because we don't naturally feel a way we do on drugs doesn't mean its not real, the brain is capable of feeling this way. It is made to feel these things, or at least it can. I also don't think that just because a person is left without the positive effects after the drug is gone it means the effects were fake, just that they are temporary, and noone is arguing that they aren't.

Drugs don't create fake feelings. A signal is passed through a pathway of nerves, and you perceive a feeling depending on the strenth of the signal and the path it takes. Some drugs increase the strength of these signals and the frequency at which they occur. The reason for some of the feelings is the drug, but it also amplifies natural emotional reaction to certain things. The feeling themselves are not fake at all though, the reasons sometimes may be "fake", but the feeling aren't fake. The pathways are there and the way we perceive these signals is there naturally.

If we all felt the way we do on MDMA naturally why would that be anymore real than feeling that way when we take it.

I have not tripped that hard on acid, but I can handle an intense psychedelic experience, and I just don't think they are as hard as being high. That's pure opinion, and I understand that you don't agree with me. I have tripped off of other substances hard enough to empathize with characters created on the back of my hand as a close and unlcose my fist. I have seen spinning robots turn into candyland on a blanket. I have seen my girlfriend turn into the llama from emperors new groove, and not be able to actualy see what she really looks like, unless I'm seeing 20 faces at once, but while I'm seeing all this I still feel lucid. The emotions are very intense, perceptions have gone to hell, but my thinking is just on the ball. I smoke weed and it just blows my mind how strong that shit is. I don't smoke very often because I just don't like it, so I'm judging fromt he perspective of a person with no tolerance.

I still don't see a reason why unnatural drugs are hard. Can you explain?