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Old 05-08-2004, 05:11 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Originally posted by Strange Famous
Well, the people must be disarmed, the first amendment causes 9,000 deaths a year, but I dont really see how it is relevant to this issue.

And the choice is pretty stark,,, either people are free to make love and reproduce, or you have state sponsored sterilisation, that is the choice - that is the reality, mass sterlisation of the socially disadvantaged, or a social welfare system.

The tax argument is illogical to me, I think many people dont understand... the purpose of tax is the redistribution of wealth, the purpose of tax is to take from the rich and give to the poor... social services is the means of taxastion, not the end of it.

We have tax to take money that the rich exploit and return it to the working class people.


What?!?! What?!? I'm almost at a loss for words I'm so stunned here. Taxes are not for the redistribution of wealth. The purpose of taxes is not to take from the rich and give to the poor. In no way shape or form. Taxes in the US are charges levied by the government for the purpose of financing services performed for the common benefit of the community. The US government IS NOT Robin Hood!!

The problem in this story is that people like this are overburdening our social programs.

You also keep making the assumption in your posts, that the judge ordered these people not to have sex. Nowhere in the story does it say this. The judge also says he is NOT trying to enforce sterilization ( I dont think he would get away with that anyhow ), nor is he enforcing contraception. So what happens if they have another baby? Contempt of court. The judge is trying to "redistribute" the burden of responsibly caring for these kids back to the parents and not on our overly exploited social programs.

You seem to want to not only redistribute wealth by taking it from those you deem unworthy to have it, but redistribute guilt as well. In all your posts so far you try to place the burden of guilt for the mistreatment of these kids on all of society while absolving the parents who caused the problem in the first place. There is no rich evil white guy at the head of some multinational corperation that forced cocaine up this "poor working class" mothers nose while she was pregnant.
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