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Old 05-05-2004, 02:03 AM   #19 (permalink)
Publius
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Originally posted by Billy Ocean
Still think he lied about a threat to US interests and our allies? Still think there were no WMD in Al-Queda hands in Iraq? These attacks would have made 9/11 look almost insignificant in terms of global impact.
I never said that Bush lied about the threat, I only said that he lied about the connection between Osama and Sadam, especially pre- 9/11. I do not deny that Ansar al-Islam exists and is a considerable threat to national and global ssecurity. But the fact remains that there still is no real connection between this group and Saddam. (For a full breakdown on these Taliban like thugs check out http://www.hrw.org/backgrounder/mena/ansarbk020503.htm ). This is the very basis of the argument that Bush was making, that Saddam was supplying WMD to this group so that it could be transferred to al-Qaeda. Now what this assumes is that Saddam was crazy, which he is not, he is just evil. This group would just have likely used these weapons against Saddam as it would have used it against anyone else. Saddam may have made some dumb mistakes in his career but he isn’s stupid.

Just ask yourself this question, if you were Saddam in charge of running secular Iraq and knowing full well that the religious nuts would like nothing more then to see you (insert whatever means of torment you prefer), would you turn over control of weapons that could be used to bring you down? Yeh, me either. So unless you think that Saddam was completely mad please don’t go underestimating him.

Also, I fail to see the connection between Ansar al-Islam and 9/11 considering the group only formed on 9/8/01. Also, doesn’t it seem a little strange to you that this group would choose to form in the northern no fly zone where they could be reasonably sure that they were safe from attack by Saddam? In all actuality Saddam had very little control over this region after the first gulf war and it was felt to govern itself, for the most part, under US and British protection. So really you could say that we were the ones protecting these religious nuts from the strong arm of Saddam, who, without our protection, would probably have crushed them before they had much of a chance to form at all. But that, of course, assumes that Saddam is in fact an evil dictator who was willing to do almost anything to stay in power.
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