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Old 05-04-2004, 01:36 PM   #35 (permalink)
Zeld2.0
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Its not simply going to Sunday School as you say

And taken from those quotes, the "wages war against Allah" part sounds more reactionary on there part in response to what they see as the Western war against them.

To put it simply, the rift between the two civilizations stretches back hundreds and even thousands of years.

The stance that many take against liberals is that they think they're out to "hold their hands."

Wrong. They're out to fix the problems. And the problem, simply put, isn't in their religion or hate.

If it were that simple, why do not thousands of them rise up and kill kill kill? Simply put, they don't.

Its political, strategic, and ideological interests coupled with nationalistic principles as well that come to mind. Israel to many is a nation created by the West illegally and unfairly. Maybe not to us, but to them.

And here's another thought:

The large majority of modern day terrorism began in the late 60's and early 70's with hijackings, bombings, etc. in the style as we know them.

The conflict between the Arab nations and the "West" really grew and sparked after the creation of Israel with war after war.

Put that into perspective into the timeline of history and you will see that what we percieve as a long strain of problems in the people is more of factors that have occured RECENT years.

These factors put with an education that is emphasizing these recent problems is creating the strain that evokes many to emphasize the rift.

The rift has always been there, its recent events that have slanted their view.

Fact is, most Muslims aren't out there to kill Americans. Unlike what many believe, they're not out to kill everyone or to create the next Jihad.

It's great that people here can't even understand that the actions of 15 or whatever people in a EXTREMIST group do not even represent a religion that encompasses a billion people.

I mean, what do you say to those in America in extremist or even fundamentalist groups who call for the revolution in the government to their means or those who even openly call for a new government on either side of the political spectrum (from those who want a Christian Fundamentalist nation to a communist one to a fascist one).

What do you say to those who use bombings, lynchings, and so on in say the KKK who use these terrorist methods to put down others.

Its not simply what they are being taught or how they are raised or what they belong to - its what interests are at hand that push people to do that. And to those extremists, who are often people who have no other ways of fighting back (not even rich billionaires are going to spend money on armies and waht not) - or, in other ways, who are not going to find more EFFICIENT ways, terrorism is the way to further a cause.
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