Casually dismissing Canada, Scandinavia and (I suppose Australia too

) as "third world countries", whatever that means nowdays, probably won't gain any productive or useful responses from non-US posters who lurk tilted politics.
To the extent that we can speculate about these things; it seems like within the administration itself, a fella like Colin Powell and a fella like Paul Wolfowitz each had vastly different ideas about the relative merits of the UN.