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noahfor · 04-30-2004, 12:48 PM

I've taken both pharmaceutical antidepressants and hallucinogens, and without a doubt hallucinogens have helped me far more than any antideressants. One can't understand until one does them. It's not like being drunk or high. I don't drink or smoke marijuana. There is no clouding. It opens ones mind up, not to sound cliche. Minyn, you said self revelation should be left to when oneself is fully conscious. Well on some hallucinogens I feel more fully conscious then when I am not on them. I have learned so much about myself and the mind from taking them. Everytime I take them I feel like it puts me back on the right track in life. My girlfriend and I always say that we feel like doing hallucinogens brings you into the real world. I feel like my normal state of mind can be represented by running through a hallway, enclosed, and the only place I can go is foward, but on hallucinogens I'm not enclosed. I'm not moving. They just slow things down, so you can take a look at what is really going on, without being on some mission. That is another thing, when I take them I always realize that I'm always on some mission to do something, always, we all are, and psychedelics just stop that. When I'm on them I live for the moment, and forget about the future. We live for positive emotions, and people create these elaborate plans and missions to gain some large payoff of positive emotions, but one doesn't need the plans. There is enough here and now to supply a person with positivity forever. They let me see that.

I don't know much about buddhism, but isn't spiritual enlightenment when one reaches a point of no "I", no thoughts, just experience. Well, I have experienced that when I took a drug called "psy". The idiots that sold it to me didn't even know what it was, and I'm probably a bigger idiot for taking it, but I evaluated the situation and decided to. That's beside the point anyway. While on it I entered this state that I described unintentionally, and when the I disappeared I realized that I am merely experience, and that there is no point in life other than helping others experience the positive. It was a while ago, so I can't really remember it that well.

04-30-2004, 12:48 PM	#22 (permalink)
noahfor Addict	I've taken both pharmaceutical antidepressants and hallucinogens, and without a doubt hallucinogens have helped me far more than any antideressants. One can't understand until one does them. It's not like being drunk or high. I don't drink or smoke marijuana. There is no clouding. It opens ones mind up, not to sound cliche. Minyn, you said self revelation should be left to when oneself is fully conscious. Well on some hallucinogens I feel more fully conscious then when I am not on them. I have learned so much about myself and the mind from taking them. Everytime I take them I feel like it puts me back on the right track in life. My girlfriend and I always say that we feel like doing hallucinogens brings you into the real world. I feel like my normal state of mind can be represented by running through a hallway, enclosed, and the only place I can go is foward, but on hallucinogens I'm not enclosed. I'm not moving. They just slow things down, so you can take a look at what is really going on, without being on some mission. That is another thing, when I take them I always realize that I'm always on some mission to do something, always, we all are, and psychedelics just stop that. When I'm on them I live for the moment, and forget about the future. We live for positive emotions, and people create these elaborate plans and missions to gain some large payoff of positive emotions, but one doesn't need the plans. There is enough here and now to supply a person with positivity forever. They let me see that. I don't know much about buddhism, but isn't spiritual enlightenment when one reaches a point of no "I", no thoughts, just experience. Well, I have experienced that when I took a drug called "psy". The idiots that sold it to me didn't even know what it was, and I'm probably a bigger idiot for taking it, but I evaluated the situation and decided to. That's beside the point anyway. While on it I entered this state that I described unintentionally, and when the I disappeared I realized that I am merely experience, and that there is no point in life other than helping others experience the positive. It was a while ago, so I can't really remember it that well.