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Stompy · 04-29-2004, 03:17 PM

I was on topic!

I'm replying to the topic as if he exists. I'm simply asking how the rules make any sense.

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To elaborate, I'm trying to clarify all the contradictions. I don't exactly know the bible in and out, but there are a few things I'd like cleared up. What better place to ask it than in a thread about Jesus and his sacrifice?

To reiterate, I thought god was compassionate and loving? If so, why is the ONLY exception to being saved to believe?

Also, what is the purpose of being baptised? I thought getting baptise negated any sin one was to commit in his life?

Lastly, what is the definition of "believe"? Do I have to 100% without a doubt believe in Jesus or god to be saved? What if there's a .01% chance in my mind that says "Well, science is quite interesting and.. well, I don't really know if there's a god.." Does that mean I'm a nonbeliever and I'm going to hell? Like right now in my life, I'm pretty young (23) and I have a keen interest in science, but later as I approach the final stages of life, I might decide to take up a religion just for the benefit of the doubt.. the "well, what if there was a god..?" Would that NOT count since my only purpose in believing at that point is to be "saved"?

Are there actual reasons/explanations for any of these and how they kinda.. void each other out, do I have the wrong idea, or are these rules just supposed to be believed without any questions as a "that's just the way they are, I don't know why" type of thing?

04-29-2004, 03:17 PM	#40 (permalink)
Stompy Banned from being Banned Location: Donkey	I was on topic! I'm replying to the topic as if he exists. I'm simply asking how the rules make any sense. [edit] To elaborate, I'm trying to clarify all the contradictions. I don't exactly know the bible in and out, but there are a few things I'd like cleared up. What better place to ask it than in a thread about Jesus and his sacrifice? To reiterate, I thought god was compassionate and loving? If so, why is the ONLY exception to being saved to believe? Also, what is the purpose of being baptised? I thought getting baptise negated any sin one was to commit in his life? Lastly, what is the definition of "believe"? Do I have to 100% without a doubt believe in Jesus or god to be saved? What if there's a .01% chance in my mind that says "Well, science is quite interesting and.. well, I don't really know if there's a god.." Does that mean I'm a nonbeliever and I'm going to hell? Like right now in my life, I'm pretty young (23) and I have a keen interest in science, but later as I approach the final stages of life, I might decide to take up a religion just for the benefit of the doubt.. the "well, what if there was a god..?" Would that NOT count since my only purpose in believing at that point is to be "saved"? Are there actual reasons/explanations for any of these and how they kinda.. void each other out, do I have the wrong idea, or are these rules just supposed to be believed without any questions as a "that's just the way they are, I don't know why" type of thing? __________________ I love lamp. Last edited by Stompy; 04-29-2004 at 04:22 PM..