irateplatypus

if you'll read the first line of my first post on this thread you'll see that i acknowledge the spin of the facts in the ad... but maintain that kerry is still weak on defense independant of those characterizations.

to be honest, i prefer not to carry credibility with someone who cites something like that recent howard zinn editorial. i know that sounds aweful when read, but it is an honest opinion delivered without malice.

i just said that i had never been to the RNC website... i looked for the first time after reading your post and couldn't find it. and if it's there... yay, whoopee, neato. i don't care. the same bare facts are in the national archives. you wonder what else they're hiding? good, me to. when you find something be sure to let us all know about it. seriously.

please stop asking me if i have been reading this or if i understand that. if you've paid any attention to my posts you'll see that i have. it is entirely possible for me to carefully read the same thing you do and come to a different conclusion. i'm sorry if this sounds rude... but i really tire of repeating the same things over and over. i know it is my fault for getting sucked into it, but ignoring someone's post and demanding they restate their case doesn't add to the TFP.

if there is no researched rebuttal, then i'll cheerfully leave this thread and let you hack it out with whoever else shows up.

again, no malice... but a bit of frustration.

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