irateplatypus

haven't visited the RNC website in my life. i'd swear that on a stack of bibles. nope, got those somewhere else... but i won't guarantee you that those sources didn't take them from there as that is certainly possible. again, i won't deny they are there... but i really wouldn't have any idea about the matter either way. good thinking though, i'll have to check that out sometime.

those votes and proposals are part of the public record. they're stored in the national archives. the quotes are true, available to anyone who wants to verify their veracity.

the public archives are what they are. no matter where they are referenced... they exist outside of partisan spin. so, no... if the congressional record isn't good enough then i quite honestly cannot do any better.

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