View Single Post
Old 04-24-2004, 03:24 PM   #25 (permalink)
Seaver
Junkie
 
Seaver's Avatar
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
Quote:
Thats bullshit
No it's not, Micheal Moore makes up numbers, or he conveniently leaves out tidbits of important information in order to prove his points. I dont even thing left wingers will deny this.

Quote:
Thats not the same thing. I am talking about ending a life, not repairing a tire.
No, we are not talking about the same thing. We are talking about saving lives.

Outlaw guns and only outlaws have guns. Now CCW laws are in place so gangbangers dont have access to CCW permits. If they are caught with one, they are prosecuted. Why prosecute the law abiding citizen who might be wary, or who already fell victom to a robbery?

Quote:
I am through arguing about this. I am for guns, but I am not for killing ppl or animals.
How interesting you threw in the animals into the argument. Because you know, this is about the childrens safety.

Quote:
After all, it's not easy to kill by clubbing, stabbing or hanging; these methods lack the super-ability and feasibility that guns provide.
Hanging should not be in there, it is a pre-ordaned and organized method.

Stabbing? Ask any police officer a knife is more deadly than a gun. Dont believe me? Ask one, you can be stabbed 7 times before you draw your gun. If you're halfway smart you twist the knife and you make a half-inch hole in the body it's almost 100% guarantee of death. You dont get that from a gun unless shot directly in the head, which is a lucky shot at best.

Clubbing? One knock to the head he's unconcious, easy prey for whatever you wish. So no, both of these do not require "super-ability"


Oh yeah, those statistics you pointed out are flawed because they dont look at the larger picture. The crime rate has continued to fall since the early 90s, this trend predates your statistical dates of CCW laws.

So, lets go over this one more time. Correlation does not equal Causation. Gun control laws do not affect national trends that predate them, just as having stealth bombers today did not affect WWII.
Seaver is offline  
 

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360