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Originally posted by raeanna74
sprocket - this is what I was curious about. I was wondering what kinds of things you would learn from them and what would motivate you to do them again.
I kindof imagined it as feeling a bit like I did on morphine. A peace, and more detached. I don't think I'll ever try anything myself but it's interesting to know what motives people to try them and what they gain from them beyond fun, if anything.
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Well morphine (and all opiates, like herione, opium etc) are worlds apart from the psychedelics I mentioned. I cant speak for others, but nothing meaningful for me came from an experience on an opiate. I dont even find them all that pleasant. ( I think I might be the only person in the world who doesnt enjoy heroine
). Opiates dont alter my perception in such a way that I feel Ive learned something or come out of the experience with something more tangible. They seem to shut down the psychic processes that would allow such a thing ( when I say psychic I'm not referring to some mysterious power that the likes of Ms Cleo claims to have, I'm referring to the inner workings of the mind ). Closing the third eye, instead of opening it.
Without trying to sound too fruity, I will attempt to give you some examples of what Ive experienced and why I would continue to experiment.
Psychedelics, for me, have altered my perception of the world. A change in perspective that my ego centric normal state of conciousness would not afford me under normal circumstances. By nautre I'm a very introspective person, constantly self-analyzing, and psychs definately amplify that trait in me. Many of the changes I've noticed in myself really come to the surface in the form of intuition or feelings that are very hard to put a finger on or describe to you in words, simply because they have no context in the reality we live in. As if theres no words, pictures or expressions that humans have devised with wich we can convey such feelings. They just exist. LSD or AMT trips are very intense and they last quite a long time. I've often wished I could take a snapshot of what the world looks like while viewing it from the perspective of an LSD peak. It can be... well.. a beutiful sight. No matter how enjoyable it can be, usually by the end of a long, intense trip I am glad to have my sober mind back. But its usually back with a modified outlook on my world. I guess I'm pretty cynical and pessimistic by nature, but after a trip the daily grind seems to be less mundane. The typical things like paying bills, or the thousand other meanial jobs we tend to in everyday life in order to survive are no longer looked at as chores or obstacles to jump over, but as laying a foundation for wich to build the life I want to live. The slight perspective shift that came from a few trips, made the glass half full, instead of empty. They can give me a renewal of sorts. Some people experience the same thing by going to church, praying, climbing a mountain, camping, throwing a big party with close friends, or combinations of all those things. A recharging of their spiritual batteries so to speak. These perspective shifts can come to you naturally and probably would have come to me eventually. I beleive my psychedelic experiences opened my mind to other lines of thinking moreso and sooner than I would have come to naturally or through other experiences. Psychedelics are by no means my only avenue for wich I try to gain self knowledge and awareness.. they are just one tool I have found useful in that quest.
Other psychedelics like DMT create a wholey different type of experience for me. Short lasting (about 12-15 minutes and peaking at about 3) and more intense than any acid trip. Jay-G compared doing these things to taking rat poison. Well, think what you will about the spiritual use of drugs, its not really my business, but DMT is something every human has experienced (and is in no way poison). You were just to young to remember. The interesting thing about this drug is its actually present in all of us. The pineal gland produces it. Right between and just above your eyes, buried in the brain. Interestingly corresponding with the sixth chakra (associated with sight, intuition, imagination, clairvoyance). Its not actively producing enough of this chemical in our daily life to have an psychedelic affect on us but its there. Its theorized that many religious and spiritual experiences are caused by reactivating the pineal. There are also natural ways to turn it back on and have your own body produce this chemical that was catagorized with rat poison by a previous poster (and you will have the same kind of visionary experiences you would have if you smoked it). I'll post some links to more information on this if anyones interested. So who knows.. DMT might actually be the chemical behind the spritutal experience. The pineal produces the most DMT during the period we were groing inside our mothers. If I remember correctly, its active most while we are going through childbirth. Many believe this drug is a way to re-live or reexperience your birth (or have a rebirth). When I tried it thats definately something I felt. Like it was a reset button for your brain
. It was amazing to say the least.
Ill elaborate further later but I'm tired of typing after this long winded post and I need to get some sleep. reanna feel free to ask for clarification or further input. It took me a while to respond because I wanted to put thought into this. I'm glad you asked this question because its motivated me to dig a little bit deeper as to what I've really gotten from my experiences.