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greytone · 05-03-2003, 05:15 PM

First, we must understand the difference between evolution and Evolution. There is no doubt that evolution occurs because there are species that have changed or become extinct during human history. Much of this has been the direct result of human intervention (ie, animal breeding). The real question is, does the theory if Evolution explain the existance of life as we witness it. Keep in mind that Darwin was not the first to propose a theory of evolution. His great achievement was in understanding that evolution occured by natural selection acting on inherited (not acquired) characteristics. Gregor Mendel's work in genetics was not well known at the time. Lamark had thought that animals pass on characteristics they aquire after birth.

There is more than biological evolution. There are also cosmic, astrological, geological, and social evolution occuring at the same time. Each of these have different mechanisms and rules. Evolution is inevitable in a universe that includes time as a dimension, because change and time can not exist with out the other.

There is nothing about Darwin's theories that exclude a diety as the ultimate cause of life. He does not address the initial origin of life in the primordial soup. He certainly does not address the ultimate cause of creation of the universe. Here I am not speaking of his personal beliefs, but rather the the modern version of Darwin's theories.

I believe that God created the universe and gave it rules that ultimately led to where we are. That is a far more impressive version of creation than people could comprehend 5000 years ago when Genesis was first told over campfires.

I also believe that Darwin was a genius and his work is the central tenet of all of modern Biology. His ideas have been firmed up over the last century as we have come to understand molecular genetics. I am sure there are details in his writing that are not accurate, but that does not take away from his accomplishments.

05-03-2003, 05:15 PM	#16 (permalink)
greytone Junkie	First, we must understand the difference between evolution and Evolution. There is no doubt that evolution occurs because there are species that have changed or become extinct during human history. Much of this has been the direct result of human intervention (ie, animal breeding). The real question is, does the theory if Evolution explain the existance of life as we witness it. Keep in mind that Darwin was not the first to propose a theory of evolution. His great achievement was in understanding that evolution occured by natural selection acting on inherited (not acquired) characteristics. Gregor Mendel's work in genetics was not well known at the time. Lamark had thought that animals pass on characteristics they aquire after birth. There is more than biological evolution. There are also cosmic, astrological, geological, and social evolution occuring at the same time. Each of these have different mechanisms and rules. Evolution is inevitable in a universe that includes time as a dimension, because change and time can not exist with out the other. There is nothing about Darwin's theories that exclude a diety as the ultimate cause of life. He does not address the initial origin of life in the primordial soup. He certainly does not address the ultimate cause of creation of the universe. Here I am not speaking of his personal beliefs, but rather the the modern version of Darwin's theories. I believe that God created the universe and gave it rules that ultimately led to where we are. That is a far more impressive version of creation than people could comprehend 5000 years ago when Genesis was first told over campfires. I also believe that Darwin was a genius and his work is the central tenet of all of modern Biology. His ideas have been firmed up over the last century as we have come to understand molecular genetics. I am sure there are details in his writing that are not accurate, but that does not take away from his accomplishments. __________________ I was there to see beautiful naked women. So was everybody else. It's a common failing. Robert A Heinlein in "They Do It With Mirrors"