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Originally posted by Lebell
Actually, I think you miss mine.
Or possibly we just disagree.
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Certainly we have been pro-Isreal for many years, but I also think we have been pro-Arab. I don't think there has to be a conflict between those two positions, but many radical Arabs think you can't be both.
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OK... Again, all I can say is that you seem to misunderstand what I'm saying.
The fact remains that the "Arab world" perceives a pro-Israel, anti-Arab bias by the US. In fact, I honestly believe that most people do.
THAT'S what I was saying.
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Please re-read what I wrote and tell me how publishing stories about Jews eating Arab babies compares to media spin in the US.
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You what?
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Of course we make mistakes.
But again, compare.
The terrorists use HOSPITALS, MOSQUES, and SCHOOLS for cover and they routinely fire on US troops from crowds of CIVILIANS.
Again, I can't see how anyone can draw a comparison.
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I'm not drawing a comparision. I'm explaining that there IS bias, that the bias is perceived and "more servere" than it may be, that the US should work to address the bias, that the perception of anti-Arab bias explains a lot.
I'm not taking sides. I'd MUCH prefer the US to be in its position (the world's largest super-power) rather than some asshat like Hussein or Kim Il Jong. But I'm not above pointing out some warts...
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Well, since you've made the charge, but given me nothing to respond to, I can only say that I don't think my comments are extremist, but accurate.
Certainly the recent Iranian snub of US (they weren't too proud to take the money, btw) is a matter of record, as is the efforts of Carter, Clinton and Bush to bring about a Palestinian state.
So how are those facts of history "extremist"?
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OK, first of all, as far as I remember and have read, the reason the US didn't "finish off" Hussein had
nothing to do with Arab countries refusing to join American forces entering Baghdad, but
everything to do with Bush Snr calling off the attacks, and some perceived media spin associated with the attack lasting only 100 hours. Isn't that an item of record?
Secondly, the Iranians
DID accept US aid after the earthquake.
Thirdly, Carter and Clinton certainly did more for Palestinians than Bush; at least in my opinion. I doubt many Palestinians or "Arabs" would agree with you that Bush has worked to create a state.
My point here was to try to explain why there was anti-Amercianism in the Arab world (not defend or attack it), how America could work to address some of it, why that's important just because of who the US is and what it stands for and why it would be better to engage with the UN in Iraq.
Despite my efforts, and explicit comments, it seems to have been inferred as my taking sides (once again).
Mr Mephisto