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Old 04-15-2004, 06:29 AM   #24 (permalink)
Mephisto2
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Originally posted by Lebell
Good conversation so far (let's keep it that way )

Agreed. And I'm enjoying a (so far) mature and open discussion.

I should also like to point out that I am not taking sides. I'm PRO-American. It's just that I'm also a little anti-Bush... Unfortunately, a great deal of people fail to see the difference.

It should also be noted that Bush Senior was a great proponent of international engagement, inclusion and a supporter of the UN. It's a pity more of that didn't wash off on his son.


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I would argue that they selectively see "anti-Arab" actions and policies and frequently where they don't exist.
You miss my point.

The actions of the US are manifestly PRO-Israeli and ANTI-Arab. It's gone so far that even "innocent" actions are seen as "anti-Arab" (note my use of quotation marks in the original instance).

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For example, there is frequent distortion and outright lies in the Arab press regarding US actions in the world, including Iraq.



And this doesn't happen in the US? Fox News and its ilk never distort the truth?

Please excuse the cynical grin I have right now...


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I can't name the number of times I've been on an Arab news website and seen the spin about "killing children" or "terrorist actions" when more moderate sources reveal that US troops responded to being fired upon first.
Yet there are many instances where US forces DID kill innocent civilians, women and children. These are, of course, mistakes. But they happen.
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The extremists also have snubbed the US when we've sent aid to Muslims in earthquake areas and they have ignored the efforts of many US presidents to bring peace to the middle East (because of course, they won't settle for anything less than the destruction of Isreal).
I honestly think you're being extremist with those comments, so I won't comment.



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