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Old 04-14-2004, 01:30 PM   #35 (permalink)
shakran
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Originally posted by onetime2
He admitted last night that he has made mistakes that's the point of the quote I attached.
Actually, no he did not. He said he's confident he's made mistakes. That's not a definite statement saying "I made mistakes." That's a statement that he believes he has probably made mistakes.

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Originally posted by Mojo_PeiPei
I've always wondered this, but how does Bush getting his information solely from his advisers make him ignorant or stupid/misinformed?
Because without multiple sources you cannot verify the truth in what you learn. In short, he's surrounded himself with yes-men and he believes everything they say.

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I mean call me crazy but I would think that the way intelligence is brought to him is about 10x better then anything anybody gets.
Nope. Used to be that way, but then 24 hour news services with world-wide resources and realtime satellite uplinks came around. Now, the world, including our own government, turns into CNN to see what's happening.



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How is him not listening to the media a problem? I don't get it? How would him getting news after the fact from public sources help?
Because if his advisors are lying to him, reading the facts in an independent source might give him the heads up. You know, for every president before this one, there was a dedicated staff that read through the major newspapers in the US and clipped important articles for the president to read, because sometimes advisors lie, sometimes they get it wrong, and often times journalists have the whole story. Bush, of course, is not interested in that.

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Where else is he supposed to get his information from? The New York Times? Newsweek? The people that get the information the government wants them to report?
I'm not sure what you're suggesting here. Are you saying all media sources are compromised, and are puppets of the government? This IS the United States we're talking about, right?

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The people that get the news after shit has already gone down? Shakran you saying is completely retarded, sorry and no offense to you personally, I just have no idea how a reasonably informed person could say something so nieve and stupid.
Well let's see, if he bothered to tune into CNN or MSNBC he could get the news as close to (and in many cases closer to) real time as he can get it from his own agencies. What you're saying is, frankly, apallingly ignorant. You're suggesting that surrounding yourself with people who all think the same way and then believing without question everything they tell you is a great way to run a country. You're suggesting that confirmation sources are NEVER necessary. You're even suggesting that anyone who thinks they are is "retarded," which, by the way, is a needlessly insulting term that automatically weakens your already groundless argument.
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