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Originally posted by sixate
There is no place for a blue fucking mohawk in any school, and it's foolish to think there is a place for it. 99% of us would lose our jobs if we came into work with a blue mohawk. There is a place called the real world, and if you want to succeed you have to conform. Hell, I don't like it, but it's a fact of life, and it doesn't make any of us conformist whiners. The only ones whining here are the people who want kids to look like freaks.
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1. We're talking about a kid- not you, not an adult of any kind, not someone applying for a job, not anything other than a kid being a fucking kid. There are plenty of things one can do while still understanding "how things are". This kid can blue mohawk himself all he wants while still understanding the implications of wearing/keeping it.
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Originally posted by shakran
You're right! They get fired, can't get unemployment because it's demonstratably their fuckup, then they run out of money and declare bankruptcy, sometimes become homeless, and often go hungry. School is the place where we teach the children how to behave so that this does not happen to them when they no longer have the safety net of a school.
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My personal opinion is that "slippery slope" arguments are some of the most unfounded, nonsensical, bullshit filler arguments I ever read during the course of debate. There is nothing to found them on, nothing with which to support them, and are pure fabrications based on personal agenda.
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For another, when's the last time you passed by a guy with neon hair that you didn't look over at him? You really want YOUR kid busy looking at the idiot with the smurf hair when he's supposed to be learning how to read?
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Novelty quickly wears off, nullifying this point- most especially in those who lack long attention spans- like kids.
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For yet another, it teaches the other children that if you want attention, the easiest way is to dress or groom yourself to look like a sideshow. Forget accomplishing something - that's hard. Just dye your hair and do your best imitation of a centurion's helmet and you'll get all the attention you want.
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I don't find any evidence to support the argument that the child in this instance wanted a mohawk just to be noticed. This is speculative at best, and only showcases your own (low) opinion of the subject without addressing the matter more directly (i.e., societal demands placed on young children, responsibility of parents, etc.).
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Plus, whether it's disruptive or not, it teaches the kid with the mohawk that it's OK to look like a freak, and if people don't accept you, that's their fault. That's total bullshit. It's just like the people who run around in gothic clothing leading each other around with leashes attached to studded collars around their necks, then wonder why they can't get a job anywhere but a used CD store. These people are idiots. If you want to be accepted in society, you have to conform to societal norms. If you don't care about being accepted, that's great, more power to you, but don't bitch when society doesn't give you a job.
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Highlight 1: If you don't like me because of how I dress, then that IS your fault- and it's also your tough luck. According to what you (several of you) say, you would treat me like scum if you saw me walking down the street and think nothing of me. To those who know me, the clothing belies my demeanor, my goals, my faith, my personality,
and my ability to know when to dress apropriately.
Highlight 2: These people to whom you refer and who you use to typify the sub-culture you are bashing by calling them "freaks" have NO illusions as to why they find it difficult to further themselves in society. They know quite well that people in general can be dickheads and won't be more accepting of what they see around them. Need I remind you all that women were second-rate citizens for all history until recently, and people of different races are still being mistreated, looked over, harassed, and killed simply for being a different color?
Call people "freaks" and exclude them if you wish, but don't think that makes you Mr. or Ms. Perfect 2004. If many people believe a stupid thing, it is still a stupid thing.
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Originally posted by sixate
All of the things you just listed are just normal people, not a giant freaky blue stupid mohawk that does nothing other than say: Look at me. I like to be a fucking attention whore because I'm a moron.
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That's your opinion, and insulting.
Come down to the south in the right areas and run your mouth about gays being "normal people". While you're at it, add soemthing about how great black people are, they'll love you for that.
People like to forget that the normal of today was very often extremely taboo yesterday.
In the last 100 years:
1. Slavery was normal. Very normal. Sidenote: Many of the "Framers" of the constitution some of you like to historically suck-off on a regular basis had them.
2. Women couldn't vote. In fact, they had little to no rights whatsoever- including owning property. Beating a woman meant she deserved it, and was also quite common.
...and those two are just off the top of my head.
Goth, punk, raver, "normal", gay, black, white, purple, Man, Woman, Child... we're all human beings. Some of us, regardless of cultural affiliation, will be stupid, misguided, assholes, aloof, indifferent, rude, brash, weak, powerful, attention whores who bash those different than themselves just to be seen, attention whores who change their hair color and pierce/tattoo themselves 50 times, and just plain old common jerk-offs. Just because "some" are, doesn't mean "all" are. What a horrid way to stereotype people.