filtherton

You honestly think allowing children to dress how they want in school will damage their job prospects later in life? Really?

Because having a mohawk is no different from a shirt that says fuck or a penis drawn on a pair of pants? Nice comparison. I'm surprised you didn't bring up something about a kkk shirt(which you'd no doubt support since malcolm x shirts are okay). I agree that there is a line, i just put it in a different place than you.


I saw it, it just wasn't really that humorous.

So what's the problem? You admit that a dust can be just as distracting as a mohawk. Perhaps we should be more concerned with making sure that chidren don't get bored in class than whether tommy is fascinated by timmy's hair.

Forbidden fruit is appealing because it is forbidden. Make it not forbidden and no one will care.

Score. George bush has an mba from the ivy leaagues. He's got a great reputation as a businessman.

I was just trying to point out that we could speculate for hours about what the kids are learning from this. This will not change the fact that we don't have all the details and are in no position to pretend to have a complete picture of what the children will take away from this situation. A real scientist will acknowledge when he doesn't have all of the facts and is only making vague educated guesses.


Let me introduce you to the idea of diversity as a vital factor in the strength of a community. More perspectives are often better than less perspectives. Surely that's not a foreign concept to you. Take your journalism major and do an article on biodiversity. If you don't see a connection than you might be beyond hope too.

I'm not complaining about rejection. Like i may have implied above, i try not to waste my time with people who are wowed by a mohawk or a black ensemble. They generally aren't very stimulating.

How are we still talking about getting a job? Hello? Remember when i agreed with you that you have to look presentable to get a job? I said something about anyone with half a brain knows that they have to look nice to get most any kind of job. My point is that letting this child have a mohawk won't damage his future ability to get a job. Prove to me that it will without using a slippery slope argument and without making questionable jumps in logic.


Of course you have to conform. What we are talking about here is the degree to which someone should conform. I presume that you don't believe in absolute conformity. I hope you can see that there are different degrees of conformity as well as different kinds. I hope you can see the value of nonconformity in that it has been a vital component in many of humanity's greates achievements. This isn't really relevant to appearance. I just wanted to point out that if the world were left to realists, like you claim to be, we'd still be in the middle ages hanging off of the pope's nuts.


What does sunburn have to do with this? You are aware that sunburn isn't the result of closedmindedness, right? You're problem is that you're afraid of being a reject. You seem to put so much value in the opinions of others that you can't bear the idea of having to carry the weight of someone else's disdain. At least, that's how you're coming across. Perhaps not, but that is what i gather from your desire to not be a reject.

What if they dress alternatively when they are not working? Like i said above and before, anybody with half a brain knows that you have to dress conservative to get most jobs so, while i agree with your perspective on this one point, i don't really think it is relevant.

I guess i just mistook your choice of loaded words and negative generalizations when refering to those different from you. You were just coming across like you had a big chip on your shoulder when it comes to gothkids. Sorry for reading between the lines. Perhaps in the future you could avoid using loaded words like "freak" "reject" or resorting to mischaracterizations like and maybe you won't come across so bitter.



What do you expect me to do based on your passionate pleas for conformity. I never said anything about white and/or clean cut. That's you projecting. Perhaps we could both benefit from trying to correctly interpreting one another. Also, perhaps we could benefit from communicating using neutral language so as not to stir passions any more than they need to be.


btw sixate readily admits that he is an intolerant old fart(see quote below).


I see a difference in that one is a choice and the other is not. unfortunately we aren't talking about choices we are talking about getting rid of things that disrupt the learning of others. (Don't take it seriously.)


I'm not sure if you know this sixate, but there is a difference between being honest and being an asshole. I'm not saying you're an asshole, just that you should know that there is a difference and shrugging your shoulders with a "i was just being honest" doesn't mean that you're not being an asshole.