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Old 04-05-2004, 06:11 PM   #95 (permalink)
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Let me see, since I DO have to work and have a life and studied African AND American History, I don't know what I'm talking about and I might be a racist....
Hmm.....

"Supporters of reparations speak of the plunder and destruction of the African continent, and of slavery itself, where more than 250 years of uncompensated black labor helped build America. Slavery has contemporary psychic and physical victims, the argument runs, in black poverty, violence, and the existence of two separate and unequal societies. Underneath and behind these are black despair and hopelessness, the worst heritage of slavery and discrimation."

Let's flip the script a sec and point out and bring forward a question: Do you think America would be where it is WITHOUT Black Americans or slaves?


I think not, America had it good with the slaves and most of the "modern" technologies YOU use everyday have been discovered by Black scientists or based on techniques used in Africa... Just because I point it out makes me racist, too?

My race has never suppressed or enslaved any American.

You don't have to have naval power or guns to be advanced in this world. (The American Fleet back then BECAME the biggest in the world because of the slavery trade mind you...) You speak about how the slaves or Black Americans are having it good now, but you speak like you "know" a few thousand Black people and speak for them.

That shows me you don't know what you speak of. You don't know anything. How long have Blacks been over in America? Do you know? I do. Everything they have now has been hard-earned
and they still come up short. You think America GAVE it to them?

Do YOU know what the Emancipation Proclimation was all about?
You said slavery was a "small piece of the pie". When you said that, I laughed because you then showed you don't know anything.. The whole Civil War was about ending slavery. You only take what you want and then speak like you know it.
Here's a "refresher": Emancipation Proclamation

" Whereas on the 22nd day of September, A.D. 1862, a proclamation was issued by the President of the United States, containing, among other things, the following, to wit:

"That on the 1st day of January, A.D. 1863, all persons held as slaves within any State or designated part of a State the people whereof shall then be in rebellion against the United States shall be then, thenceforward, and forever free; and the executive
government of the United States, including the military and naval authority thereof, will recognize and maintain the freedom of such persons and will do no act or acts to repress such persons, or any of them, in any efforts they may make for their actual freedom.

"That the executive will on the 1st day of January aforesaid, by proclamation, designate the States and parts of States, if any, in which the people thereof, respectively, shall then be in rebellion against the United States; and the fact that any State or the people thereof shall on that day be in good faith represented in the Congress of the United States by members chosen thereto at elections wherein a majority of the qualified voters of such States shall have participated shall, in the absence of strong countervailing testimony, be deemed conclusive evidence that such State and the people thereof are not then in rebellion against the United States."

Now, therefore, I, Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States, by virtue of the power in me vested as Commander-In-Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States in time of actual armed rebellion against the authority and government of the United States, and as a fit and necessary war measure for supressing said rebellion, do, on this 1st day of January, A.D. 1863, and in accordance with my purpose so to do, publicly proclaimed for the full period of one hundred days from the first day above mentioned, order and designate as the States and parts of States wherein the people thereof, respectively, are this day in rebellion against the United States the following, to wit:

Arkansas, Texas, Louisiana (except the parishes of St. Bernard, Palquemines, Jefferson, St. John, St. Charles, St. James, Ascension, Assumption, Terrebone, Lafourche, St. Mary, St. Martin, and Orleans, including the city of New Orleans), Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, and Virginia (except the forty-eight counties designated as West Virginia, and also the counties of Berkeley, Accomac, Morthhampton, Elizabeth City, York, Princess Anne, and Norfolk, including the cities of Norfolk and Portsmouth), and which excepted parts are for the present left precisely as if this proclamation were not issued.

And by virtue of the power and for the purpose aforesaid, I do order and declare that all persons held as slaves within said designated States and parts of States are, and henceforward shall be, free; and that the Executive Government of the United States, including the military and naval authorities thereof, will recognize and maintain the freedom of said persons.

And I hereby enjoin upon the people so declared to be free to abstain from all violence, unless in necessary self-defence; and I recommend to them that, in all case when allowed, they labor faithfully for reasonable wages.

And I further declare and make known that such persons of suitable condition will be received into the armed service of the United States to garrison forts, positions, stations, and other places, and to man vessels of all sorts in said service.

And upon this act, sincerely believed to be an act of justice, warranted by the Constitution upon military necessity, I invoke the considerate judgment of mankind and the gracious favor of Almighty God. "
(Let me see you dodge that..)

Want to see how many times this government made promises and failed to honor them to slaves? The government made laws to put an end to slavery and STILL these businesses forced FREED BLACKS into slavery?

http://www.toptags.com/aama/docs/docs.htm

(Check it out and look ESPECIALLY at the timeline before you open your mouth. It's all in there.)
I bet you'll only see what you want to and want to argue over bullshit points you want to make. Not before you acknowledge that this country fucked up big time.

You all are prolly afraid that Blacks have a legitimate claim.
Damn, that will cost the goverment BILLIONS.. Now you then know WHO will pay for it. (Taxpayers.)

Wow! All this time you have been paying for them to shoot $2 million missles at camels thousands of miles away, and you want to justify why you shouldn't honor a contract that the government made. Thats a no-brainer..

What was the year they knocked down segregation and why in
1973 they still had to use National Guardmen to ESCORT Blacks to school? You call that having it "good"?

Let me point out:

Everytime you turn the ignition key to your car,
everytime you ride and elevator or escalator, think about steam-driven trains and ships,
used gas-light, get a blood transfusion for your operation,
or use anything rubber or petrolium based...

Thank a Black American.

The Black Americans have been the "work-horse" for America.
And you think they are just looking for a hand-out? It's time America paid up on it's promise, too bad it didn't do it when it said it would.

When America needed to put that "Super-Race" notion to bed,
they relied on whom?

When they needed protection in the air to drop it's bombs during WW II, which air-escort group they tried to say are "inferior" but NOT ONCE lost a bomber it escorted to enemy planes? (Which still STANDS.)
You really don't want me to start "point-fucking" right now, so don't get me started..
Yeah, WHO should be grateful for WHOM and WHAT, dudes...?

I'll be atcha with that proof you want..
Bet on it..
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