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matthew330 · 04-05-2004, 07:39 AM

I think that's the route most liberals were going initially. "It's about oil!, It's about oil!!." I don't remember hearing prior to the war "There are no WMD's!!"

If we were so concerned about controlling oil, the first gulf war would have been the prime opportunity. We liberated Kuwait, and left them to their oil. I think it's testement to the fact that there is no hypothetical situation where the left would have agreed to go to war.

It seems as though what everyone is agreeing on is our intelligence about WMD's, was incorrect. If Saddam had been co-operating with the inspection process (which was left for 4 years), we wouldn't have had to rely on intelligence to "guess" whether or not they did. This is why I always believed we went to war. Saddam was not only toying with the inspectors (after having booted them out once), but for 13 years ignored the UN resolutions. He'd been firing on our planes patrolling the "no-fly zone", he'd proven himself to be willing to use chemical weapons, and in light of 9/11 we couldn't afford to continue to let him continually make a mockery the UN. Bush single handedly got the inspectors back in after 9/11 with an attitude of "you screw with us this time, and your done." He probably didn't take us seriously because of our reactions to previous terrorist attacks (Cole, etc, etc). I firmly believe that if Gore were president Saddam would currently have had 5 years total of unfettered attempts to create whatever his evil heart desired.

A side note, I think before people start yelling about the evil pharmaceutical companies they should educate themselves on the costly approval process for drugs. For every 1 drug approved by the FDA, there are literally thousands of drugs that have gone through up to 3-4 phases of trials at hundreds of sites at the cost of billions of dollars. All at the threat of being sued by the population that insists on getting these drugs for free once the "needle in the haystack" is found. All the while people like Martha Stewart being hailed as an entrepeneur for making bedsheets that cost upwards of 500 bucks.

04-05-2004, 07:39 AM	#5 (permalink)
matthew330 Banned	I think that's the route most liberals were going initially. "It's about oil!, It's about oil!!." I don't remember hearing prior to the war "There are no WMD's!!" If we were so concerned about controlling oil, the first gulf war would have been the prime opportunity. We liberated Kuwait, and left them to their oil. I think it's testement to the fact that there is no hypothetical situation where the left would have agreed to go to war. It seems as though what everyone is agreeing on is our intelligence about WMD's, was incorrect. If Saddam had been co-operating with the inspection process (which was left for 4 years), we wouldn't have had to rely on intelligence to "guess" whether or not they did. This is why I always believed we went to war. Saddam was not only toying with the inspectors (after having booted them out once), but for 13 years ignored the UN resolutions. He'd been firing on our planes patrolling the "no-fly zone", he'd proven himself to be willing to use chemical weapons, and in light of 9/11 we couldn't afford to continue to let him continually make a mockery the UN. Bush single handedly got the inspectors back in after 9/11 with an attitude of "you screw with us this time, and your done." He probably didn't take us seriously because of our reactions to previous terrorist attacks (Cole, etc, etc). I firmly believe that if Gore were president Saddam would currently have had 5 years total of unfettered attempts to create whatever his evil heart desired. A side note, I think before people start yelling about the evil pharmaceutical companies they should educate themselves on the costly approval process for drugs. For every 1 drug approved by the FDA, there are literally thousands of drugs that have gone through up to 3-4 phases of trials at hundreds of sites at the cost of billions of dollars. All at the threat of being sued by the population that insists on getting these drugs for free once the "needle in the haystack" is found. All the while people like Martha Stewart being hailed as an entrepeneur for making bedsheets that cost upwards of 500 bucks.