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Old 04-02-2004, 08:50 PM   #47 (permalink)
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What exactly is your question? Please try to phrase it without putting words in my mouth.
I thought I presented it pretty clearly, but I guess I'll try again: Why does it matter if the four people were soldiers, or civilians?

Our soldiers, as well as those of the opposition, should be able to expect that their corpses not be set on fire and mutilated.

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No one I've seen has justified what happened.
I suggest re-reading the thread -- in particular, posts by SF. Superbelt seems to be cooking up conspiracy theories here as well. Clearly the four victims were up to no good with those trucks of food.

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What we responded to, however, was the idea that this was somehow worse because civilians were targeted. We pointed out that the victims were not civilians, but rather people whose reason for being in Iraq was for a paycheck--not altruism. That's what mercenaries do--they fight for money, not ideology or defense.
123dsa is the only person on this thread that seemed to think that this was worse of a crime because the victims were civilians. I think it would be just as horrible if the victims were enlisted men and women. I don't see any need to cloud the issue by trying to re-define "civilian."

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I don't justify what happened, but by the same token I don't particularly give a shit that it did--the danger of this type of thing happening is why they are being paid so much.
Would you care if the US shot an Iraqi, burned his corpse, and then dragged it behind a car? For some reason, I think you would be outraged.

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Wasn't it people in support of this war arguing that criticism of the atrocities are irrelevent because that's the nature of war? Well, now why is it different when the atrocities happen to the "good guys?"
Please feel free to back this up with some credible reports of the US mutilating the corpses of Iraqis.

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I think that's bullshit and I also think it's buillshit that one of the military commanders is threatening a hellstorm on an innocent village because of the actions of a few people like these fucking four people are somehow worth more than the villagers who didn't do jack shit and are abhorred by what happened.
Now who is putting words into other peoples' mouths? I think that the most advanced military in the world can deal with this in a way other than carpet-bombing the town.
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