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smooth · 04-02-2004, 04:45 PM

Man, I've got to clear this up before leaving this thread to the dogs, cuz you are totally out of control.

You started this thread by asking what kind of people do this sort of thing.

Me, and a few others, replied that someone who looks out his or her window and sees foreigners invading one's hometown are going to react violently and, to some people, irrationally.

The response from both you and seretogis was to accuse me of being anti-american, to think of my nation as "evil" and as somehow justifying these actions.

Why the fuck did you even ask the question? You didn't want to know what people think could be the reason for these actions, you either wanted someone to stroke you off and support your preconception that these are unworthy barbarians who deserved to be slaughtered as fast as possible (send a cruise missile into the group of people, right?) or you wanted to castigate some fellow citizens who love the country they grew up in too.

You've been doing this shit for over two years now. So rather than continue beating my head against the wall, I conceded that you've got me--I'm an American hating citizen who just can't wait to cut people up and throw them in my stew. You can't fucking recognize how retarded you sound to me when you reply that you don't doubt I would actually do that?!

Let me just point out your very basic absence of comprehension:

1) you pointed out that you didn't read anything that would lead you to believe the commander was going to seek retribution on the whole twon

In the very first sentence of the story you quoted, the commander stated that they were going to show the Iraqi's just how serious they were about this with "overwhelming force."

2) you seem to think the Iraqi people are happy we are liberating them

once again, in the first line of the story you posted, the commander states that they are going to "retake" the city. That means they already took it, and lost it! The US military, arguably the most powerful, best equipped, and well-trained military in the history of civilization, didn't lose a city to a rag-tag group of barbarians. They lost it because the people don't want them there!

3) You claim that I think my country is evil and child killers

I didn't say that shit. First of all, I don't walk around talking about good vs. evil. I left that crap in the playground with my Star Wars figures. I've got an adult perspective on human behavior now that doesn't relegate motivation to the great pie in the sky--maybe you'll join me someday.

Secondly, bombs and bullets have killed children. That's a fact that weighs heavily on the families of those affected. I didn't state that americans are baby-killers, though, or that soldiers are baby-killers by definition. And if you had actually bothered to read through my entire post, you would have seen that I was opposed to hiring people from chile and other foreign nations to do some dirty war. So if I think those mercs are working for blood money, how the fuck do you get off accusing me of saying anything negative about our brave soldiers who have to die and kill for people who believe like you?

04-02-2004, 04:45 PM	#32 (permalink)
smooth Junkie Location: Right here	Man, I've got to clear this up before leaving this thread to the dogs, cuz you are totally out of control. You started this thread by asking what kind of people do this sort of thing. Me, and a few others, replied that someone who looks out his or her window and sees foreigners invading one's hometown are going to react violently and, to some people, irrationally. The response from both you and seretogis was to accuse me of being anti-american, to think of my nation as "evil" and as somehow justifying these actions. Why the fuck did you even ask the question? You didn't want to know what people think could be the reason for these actions, you either wanted someone to stroke you off and support your preconception that these are unworthy barbarians who deserved to be slaughtered as fast as possible (send a cruise missile into the group of people, right?) or you wanted to castigate some fellow citizens who love the country they grew up in too. You've been doing this shit for over two years now. So rather than continue beating my head against the wall, I conceded that you've got me--I'm an American hating citizen who just can't wait to cut people up and throw them in my stew. You can't fucking recognize how retarded you sound to me when you reply that you don't doubt I would actually do that?! Let me just point out your very basic absence of comprehension: 1) you pointed out that you didn't read anything that would lead you to believe the commander was going to seek retribution on the whole twon In the very first sentence of the story you quoted, the commander stated that they were going to show the Iraqi's just how serious they were about this with "overwhelming force." 2) you seem to think the Iraqi people are happy we are liberating them once again, in the first line of the story you posted, the commander states that they are going to "retake" the city. That means they already took it, and lost it! The US military, arguably the most powerful, best equipped, and well-trained military in the history of civilization, didn't lose a city to a rag-tag group of barbarians. They lost it because the people don't want them there! 3) You claim that I think my country is evil and child killers I didn't say that shit. First of all, I don't walk around talking about good vs. evil. I left that crap in the playground with my Star Wars figures. I've got an adult perspective on human behavior now that doesn't relegate motivation to the great pie in the sky--maybe you'll join me someday. Secondly, bombs and bullets have killed children. That's a fact that weighs heavily on the families of those affected. I didn't state that americans are baby-killers, though, or that soldiers are baby-killers by definition. And if you had actually bothered to read through my entire post, you would have seen that I was opposed to hiring people from chile and other foreign nations to do some dirty war. So if I think those mercs are working for blood money, how the fuck do you get off accusing me of saying anything negative about our brave soldiers who have to die and kill for people who believe like you? __________________ "The theory of a free press is that truth will emerge from free discussion, not that it will be presented perfectly and instantly in any one account." -- Walter Lippmann "You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists." -- Abbie Hoffman