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My mother would have died if she hadnt had an abortion (at least that's what the doctor told her) about 20 years ago, so... I dont know if how I feel comes in part from a personal place
Also, I am not trying to shift the focus of my own thread... but a fetus is not a life, that is a fact, it cannot survive on its own therefore it is not a life - that is the judgement, something that could live on its own is a life, a ball of cells, a potential life, that is still a part of a woman, that is not a life - and it is a woman's choice what she does with her own body, I cannot myself see any other moral possibility of belief.
To allow straight people to marry but not gays is discrimination. Simple fact, there cant be a debate, there is nothing to debate... why straight people dont want gays to marry is just beyond me, I genuinely cant understand, why would ANYONE care is too gay people want to get married or not, how does it effect your life?
As for the death penalty, as a deterent it doesnt work, we understand this - I can see that there are certain arguments for it, and mostly they come from a place of rage or disgust, I can understand the logic of believing a child killer, for example, should be erased, should cease to exist - but the question surely is do we let our anger rule the policies of our state?
Justice makes mistakes, and until it doesnt, I cant see how the death penalty can be used, or even considered for use.
And, you know, I really do get fed up of people saying "oh this is spam, this is trolling" rather than addressing the question... cos you know, if this isnt a great thread, everyone can just let it fall away from the front page and die, fine... if you dont see anything valid here to talk about you dont have to... I feel there is, I feel I am saying something which isnt the same as what I have said before, I am trying to engage a debate... if you dont want to take part Im not trying to make you, but what is the point in just coming in here to say I am being a troll... if you really think I am then ask one of the moderators to remove it, and if they feel that this shouldnt be here, fine, I'll accept that.
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"Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate,
for all things are plain in the sight of Heaven. For nothing
hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain
without being uncovered."
The Gospel of Thomas
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