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Old 03-26-2004, 07:48 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Originally posted by Mantus
Tiberry,

Where does out need for experience come from? It’s that just curiosity which could be pinned down as yet another animalistic tendency?


I believe that the drive behind our actions is largely instinctive. We have a base set of objectives in life. The main one is reproduction; all other needs derive from satisfying it. We also have our minds, which have the power to shape the instinctive forces that drive us. I am still questioning whether the mind can create its own motives. It seems that everything, which appears original to our brains, resembles an instinct in some shape or form. Though we see our world though metaphors (we identify things that look alike and group them together) so we might have trouble telling an original mental urge apart from an instinctive urge.
I don't look at experience as a need Mantus - moreso, experience to me is a REQUIREMENT. It is an absolute...without it, there would be no existence (see my example). The fact that we DO experience is the reason we exist; the reason we exist is to experience...

As for our main objective being reproduction - I see this as a secondary matter to the fundemental "reason to act" that is the experience of having or creating a child. Wouldn't you agree that this is probably THE most intense, enlightening, incredible, deeply rewarding experiences in life?

The mind has no need to create motives - it has but one purpose...to experience. Every idea, every thought, every feeling is just the mind EXPERIENCING reality. Every action we take starts with a qualifying thought. Don't confuse this with instinct which is secondary...

We humans tend to create things we THINK OF so that the experience will be more intense. Our problem is that we have a limited ability to perceive that which is the true reality, without the use of one of our five senses. If we can't touch, see, taste, hear, or smell something - we tend to not accept its existence. So we have one of two choices:

1. Make stuff. Then we CAN sense it.

or

2. Devise a way to MEASURE stuff. Then we can PROVE its existence indirectly.

Just think about the electron or any other elementary or quantum particle. They've always existed yet only in the last century could we prove it. I'm not sure if we stumbled on their existence, or if we conveived of it and then developed a means to measure its existence...either way, we now accept it as truth.

Its easy to see that as long as you can devise a tool or a measurement for 'something' you can prove that 'something' to exist. See how grand the illusion is? Its so simple, its no wonder it alludes us! Everything that is, is. Just find a way to measure it and its there. THAT"S THE ILLUSION. You don't need to measure something for it to exist, but without the experience of a 'somethings' existence, its existence is irrelavent.

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