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Ok here is what I am trying to do. Obviously unsuccessful and therefore pointless it appears.
I am showing you all my cards so to speak. I am saying this is what I believe and why. BUT, I am also saying I do this with open mind and therefore if you show me how and why my beliefs are wrong then I will gladly change my mind.
These are the problems are world is facing today. Noone anywhere wants to persuade peacefully the other side. So each side is believing theirs to be right and in doing so becoming more and more stubborn and unwilling to hear.
Yes, this might just be some small forum and won't change the world but if one mind is changed by you explaining your side RATIONALLY and without name calling, treating others like they don't know anything and so on, then perhaps maybe that person can affect another's belief and that person and another's and so on and so on. But to just sit and allow someone to believe something and not try to show how they are wrong is just as wrong as the beliefs may be. Because you keep the misunderstandings and hatred going.
Perhaps, I am a dreamer and believe the world can change by people trying to achieve the sharing of ideas and dispelling myths and beliefs that are unfounded.
All I know is that in order for change both sides must offer their views without prejudice, which is what I tried to do.
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I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"
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