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Old 03-22-2004, 11:58 PM   #60 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally posted by popo
Jeez dude, relax. No one has attacked you. Yet you're still shouting.

What you don't seem to understand is that if we are not expected to believe you simply because you say it's true. It's not up to us to disprove what you say, it's up to you to prove it. If you want to know the truth then just research your sources and their sources. We don't need to do your thinking for you.

If you still think I'm attacking you, well then...
First I edited.

Secondly I applauded you.

Thirdly, this is the problem and you are illustrating it well. How can there be peace and how can anyone expect to find common ground.

When one side shows his research, shows what he believes and is honestly asking the other to simply show their side. But that side is saying they don't want to. That the person needs to research more.

OK so basically what you are saying is what I believe is bullshit but you don't want to prove me wrong. Instead you would rather 1) have me say ok and keep my beliefs, because you are not showing me anything. Why should I even care I obviously have my answers. (Yet, I have an open mind and truly want to know the truth, therefore I am asking the other side to explain what and where my beliefs are wrong. Why is that so hard to do? I even said throw me links if you don't want to type it and I'll read them.)
2) have no idea how to show where I am wrong
or
3) truly don't care

Again I ask, How is this productive? Does this not lead to just more misunderstandings and hatreds? If you want to change minds the first step is open discussion of ideas. I gave mine but I get nothing from you. That will not change minds, that will only affirm the belief.
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