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Originally posted by wicked4182
No, that's lying. Fundamentally, you suggest killing is wrong, and unless you would agree that this is true at all times, it can't be given such a label.
So you are saying we know the truth, and hence can lie about it? Do you think that all racists think they are lying? Do you simply not have the balls to say 'THAT IS NOT TRUE' and are trying to get around the issue.
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I would say that a statement such as 'all blacks are worthless and should be killed' is not true. Racists don't think they are lying, but they think they are 'right'. I don't think I am avoiding any issue.
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That is correct. They don't want to be judged as morally right or wrong because... there is no moral right or wrong. The people who believe in these judgements judge quickly and ignorantly things that have such labels applied.
Again, no moral right or wrong? So how would the racist statement be a lie. You SAID there is no moral right or wrong. Therefore its ok if I rape and murder if its morally ok to me? People do this all the time, we lock up these people because it is WRONG. Have the courage to stand up and say something is wrong.
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A statement can be true or untrue without being labeled as right or wrong. My hair is purple. Many people kill and rape thinking they are 'right', while others disagree and say they are 'wrong'. There is a reason that you can't convince everyone of what things are 'right and wrong' and its because these are false ideas.
Ustwo I have much respect for your willingness to pursue truth. I hope you will agree that it is the pursuit of truth that is our goal in these discussions. Not to prove to everyone we are 'right'. Perhaps you should start another thread and give a clear description of what this 'right, wrong, good, bad, evil' mean.