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Originally posted by cynicalgrrlll
you website states that;
The Social Security Administration (SSA) gives cards to individuals who are U.S. citizens or non-citizens who are lawfully admitted to the U.S. for permanent residence, or who have permission from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) record to work permanently in the United States, such as refugees, asylees, work visa holders and citizens of Compact of Free Association countries.
What do you all think non-citizens are? [bold]They are lawfully allowed to be here but not legal citizens.[/bold]
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The site is clear in its wording and you contradict yourself. Lawful does not mean illegal.
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Originally posted by cynicalgrrlll
But why would automatically assume Mexico? It's a stereotypical answer and is already offensive your "maybe not" doesn't detract from that.
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You are reading an awful lot into those few words.
I on the other hand, could read your words to mean that you consider the thought of dating a Mexican National offensive and thus you are bigoted, but that would be just as silly.
I made an educated guess, based on the overwhelming number of illegal Mexican immigrants in relation to illegal immigrants from other nations. I also hedged my guess, admitting I could have been wrong, which I apparently was.
Further discussion on this point is silly. If you are bound to take offense at it, there is nothing I can do to stop you, but my words were clear.
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when you said you presummed the only reason I was posting was because I was offended on my bf's behalf.
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Again, I have no idea how you got from my point "A" to your point "B", especially since you could have been dating him for years.
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Since this nation's founding, more than 55 million immigrants from every continent have settled in the United States. In fact, with the exception of Native Americans, everyone living in this country is either an immigrant or the descendent of voluntary or involuntary immigrants.
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I almost completely agree with you, except for the fact that the "Native Americans" are immigrants too, having immigrated here from Asia several thousand years ago.
From the Merriam Webster dictionary:
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Main Entry: 2native
Function: noun
1 : one born or reared in a particular place
2 a : an original or indigenous inhabitant b : something indigenous to a particular locality
3 : a local resident; especially : a person who has always lived in a place as distinguished from a visitor or a temporary resident
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Both you and I are "native" to the US; we were born here. There is no ancestral component to the definition of "native". If you choose to throw that in (which you have), I can simply counter as I have, since we are really only drawing lines in the sand of time as to what constitutes "native".
And yes, immigrants are a very real and good part of our history. And the vast majority of them were
legal immigrants, including my own ancestors from Italy, Ireland, France and England. If you want, I can go into great depth about the history of Denver and Colorado and the important role immigrants played.
But again, you have said
nothing to convince me that illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay, or that illigal immigration shouldn't be vigorously curbed.
The best argument, namely that American business needs illegals, I could have at least made an attempt to discuss with you, but you chose to degrade the thread instead by personally attacking me.