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smooth · 03-17-2004, 10:24 PM

I'm a communist (and so is SF, Boo; not a socialist).

I believe in a communist economic system with a democratic political system. I'm going to present an example so Lebell can see how close his libertarian view is to my communist view on this issue:

My wife explained that she is discovering herself moving to the left (she grew up Christian Right [literally--daughter of a pastor in an ultra-conservative denomination] along with her entire family). She explained that she was starting to agree with "same sex civil unions--even marriage, maybe." This was evidence of her liberalized views.

I explained that a radical leftist, like me, doesn't even conceive of how marriage is an issue to the government. There shouldn't be civil unions, except in the context of everyone going through a bureaucratic process of registering as a pair of citizens (that's what we do now--even if one gets married in a church). If churches want to marry people, go ahead--any church can do what it wants in terms of marrying people. Marriage is a religious institution--that's why it shouldn't be an issue with the federal government.

I just thought Lebell would likely agree with that perspective. I wouldn't have gone off on a tangent otherwise (or if I wasn't stoned).

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smooth Junkie Location: Right here	I'm a communist (and so is SF, Boo; not a socialist). I believe in a communist economic system with a democratic political system. I'm going to present an example so Lebell can see how close his libertarian view is to my communist view on this issue: My wife explained that she is discovering herself moving to the left (she grew up Christian Right [literally--daughter of a pastor in an ultra-conservative denomination] along with her entire family). She explained that she was starting to agree with "same sex civil unions--even marriage, maybe." This was evidence of her liberalized views. I explained that a radical leftist, like me, doesn't even conceive of how marriage is an issue to the government. There shouldn't be civil unions, except in the context of everyone going through a bureaucratic process of registering as a pair of citizens (that's what we do now--even if one gets married in a church). If churches want to marry people, go ahead--any church can do what it wants in terms of marrying people. Marriage is a religious institution--that's why it shouldn't be an issue with the federal government. I just thought Lebell would likely agree with that perspective. I wouldn't have gone off on a tangent otherwise (or if I wasn't stoned). __________________ "The theory of a free press is that truth will emerge from free discussion, not that it will be presented perfectly and instantly in any one account." -- Walter Lippmann "You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists." -- Abbie Hoffman