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Old 03-14-2004, 10:42 AM   #12 (permalink)
irateplatypus
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Originally posted by Strange Famous
The state should offer free night classes for people to learn English in, and most immigrants would be very happy to learn English as their second language.

What we do not want is to make people assimiliate to American culture
your posts often confuse me. your location says england, but you're commenting on the attitude of the average immigrant in the US. you also use "we" in the sense that you are part of the American culture. will you please clear that up for me? honestly, it would really help me make better sense of this discussion.

i've lived in 4-5 states here in the US, including California. this has given me a lot of firsthand experience in interacting with immigrants. from what i've seen, there is very little desire or impetus to contribute to American culture (again, i know the term is nebulous at best) as it stands today on the part of the growing hispanic population. if asked, i can cite countless examples of such behavior. it's almost as if they realized that within their own communities they can keep their old ways and not contribute fully to US society, all the while reaping the benefits. because they stick together, they can flex their political muscles in ways they could never do that if they were in the habit of assimilating.

in my experience, most are not willing to learn english as long as they can continue to get by without it.

this isn't racist at all, just an observation: the middle eastern and east asian communities are much more interested in contributing to American society in the cases that i have observed. Perhaps this is because the communities they live in have fewer of their own ethnicity, so they are forced to interact more.

it seems like in the past people came to American to be Americans. now it seems like they just want to live like one. if i were in the position that a lot of these people came from in their original countries, i'd probably do the same... but that doesn't mean that it promotes strength and prosperity where i live.
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