Well, seeing as this has now boiled down to debating hate group affiliations and whether or not Stare At the Sun is one of them, I can safely assume we've all had it out on this topic.
Thank you all for participating. To all of you who understood why we allowed this thread to take place at all- you are truly thanked and appreciated.
Most notably:
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Originally posted by Strange Famous
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Sometimes, free speech can be valuable, we cannot fight these ideas by just banning them, we should never be afraid to engage them. I think this is what lebell and analog have done here, and although I initially did not agree, I now think that their actons to allow this thread were correct.
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EDIT:
After careful consideration and a PM from a contributor to this post, I am compelled to add further explaination to the end of this thread.
1. Whether or not Stare At The Sun is or is not- and he says he is not, and i must respect his assertion- a racist, white-power hate-group-pusher is not the issue here, not the point of the thread, and not the topic we're discussing. This thread derailed several posts ago, and I have now decided to end it.
2. The continued use of opinion, regardless of the opinion itself, is part of what got this thread closed. Also, invoking the name of the CODOH, a WELL-KNOWN white power group- no matter how honest the intentions- is not something that will be done here.
If you all want to discuss who and what the CODOH are, and if they really are racists and revisionists- fine, go make another thread. I said I would show this topic nothing but the utmost respect, and I have done that. Allowing the discussion to derail into whether or not people are racists, or what a particular organization's aim is, and to continue to deal only in opinion and the "facts" of so-called "experts" in said organization would be irresponsible and disrespectful to those lost and to those left behind.
It is for those people whom we (I) work so carefully to protect.
Please feel free to PM me if you have any questions, comments, etc., I welcome them.
Thank you all again.
-analog.