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history forgets that McCarthy was right more often than he was wrong.
i digress...
it appears that a lot of confusion on this thread is created by the bludgeoning of the word "good." When Stare at the sun cites examples of Hitler's "good" accomplishments... i think it can be argued that the word is unfit for the discussion.
i believe the more effective word is "powerful." hitler did accomplish many economic wonders, but it was all done w/the purpose of building Germany's war machine. In turn, the war machine was used to make unprovoked attacks and create an atmosphere of persecution for minorities. The ends corrupted the means in this case. Good is being used in lieu of powerful, which leads to people interpreting that as "good=the opposite of evil."
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If you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.
~ Winston Churchill
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