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Originally posted by Stare At The Sun
"the real horror" of what Hitler did is vastly overexagerated. I do not believe that 6 million Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, and blacks were killed. That number doesn't even come close to being realistic.
I think a lot of things have been changed over time, and since the US supports Israel fully, and all the bullshit they stand for and do, then and now, they obviously allow the books to be rewritten to justify the existence of Israel and their bullying of the middle east. Everything I've read on the subject shows how utterly unreasonable the entire Holocaust is, and how much of a ploy it was. Did many Jews die? Yes, however 6 million? No.
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This is not a true statement. The number of Jewish dead, murdered by Nazi Germany and her allies, realistically was between 5.6 and 6.5 million. This is a historically provable fact.
German records in the camps themselves record that 4,250,000 Jews were anhiliated in the main concentration and destruction camps themselves. On top of this, we must also include those murdered by the special commando squads, those starved or murdered by ordinary German occupation forces in the ghetto, and Jews killed by random acts of toture.
In the anhilition camps, Jews were gassed to death and burned, in the concentration camps Jews were tortured, worked, starved, killed by epidemic, or by gas chamber, and also killed for entertainment (guards would practise taking pot shots at the Jewish slaves and keep score, a guard in Auschwitz was recorded as inventing the game where he would hang a Jewish prisoner by his arms from a bar, and then try to, from a distance, shoot through his arms to make the priosoner fall... the idea of course was to do it in as few shots as possible.)
The number of 5.7 million Jews anhilated, decided upon at the Nuremburg trials, is supported by subsequent cencus information, by German records themselves, from eye witness accounts, the capacity of the furnaces and chambers and the physical corpses that have been dug up. It is supported by physical remains (such as the seven tons of human hair, 348,820 mens suits, and 836,255 women's dresses and coats found in six storerooms discovered by the liberators of Auschwitz).
If we admit that Hitler was, if he was not at the start, a terrible general, who sentenced 100,000's of his own troops to death through insanity and incompetence, if we understand that Hitler, by the end, had genuinely come to believe that he could win battles by an effort of his own will, if we acknowledge that Hitler was a paedophile, a racist, an incompetent bungler, that he lead his own nation into a complete destruction of its national identity, that his own actions led to his nations abject defeat and humiliation at the hands of the allies... when we understand all this things, and the reality of the holocaust, this makes any good Hitler achieved (for example, helping design the Volkswagen Beetle) irrelevant and meaningless.