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pan6467 · 03-08-2004, 02:04 PM

See this is why the USA is falling apart.

Are there any true issues being debated? Nope just a bunch of name calling back and forth.

People who say that character and a person's actions 30-35 years ago matter, are the same people that can't face the issues because they realize thier candidate doesn't stand for what they do.

Both sides are guilty.

Now if our country truly had a great leader but he saw all this mudslinging and hatred and uncalled for searches, innuendoes and flat out lies about his past, do you really believe he would still run?

Hell no. Noone has an innocent past. WE HAVE ALL FUCKED UP AND BURNT BRIDGES AND DONE THINGS WE AREN'T PROUD OF.

I also get tired of hearing the excuse "well I'm not running for office like this guy is". Like 30 years ago either of these men thought they truly had a chance. (Well maybe Bush, but I doubt it).

As a vet it pisses me off to hear people try to disgrace Kerry's duty. What he did afterward, alot of Nam vets did. For some reason you Righties want to act like 'Nam was some great honor to be in and no man had a right to talk about his perspective when he came back. Sorry, BUT HIS BEING THERE GAVE HIM EVERY RIGHT TO SAY WHATEVER HE WANTED ABOUT THE POLICE ACTION (ANOTHER FALLACY IS CALLING IT A WAR).

VIETNAM WAS AN ILLEGAL, NASTY, FEED THE WAR MACHINE, DISGRACE, AND FOR ANYONE TO SAY OTHERWISE TODAY WHEN 30 YEARS AGO THEY DODGED AND PROTESTED NAM ALSO. (HOW DID LIMBAUGH, O'REILLY, ANY OF THESE CRITICS OF KERRY SERVE? AND YET THEY WANT TO JUDGE THE MAN AND TOTALLY IGNORE, EVADE OR LIE ABOUT THE TRUE ISSUES?) CAN ANYONE ELSE SMELL THE BULLSHIT.

Just so no one can say I'm one sided.

FOR THE LEFT TO WORK SO FUCKING HARD TO TRY TO DIG UP WHETHER W WAS AWOL OR SERVED OR MISSED BUT WAS EXCUSED OR WHATEVER IS PIOUS BULLSHIT ALSO. WHILE THE LEFT AT LEAST FACE SOME ISSUES THEY HAVE SPENT MORE TIME TRYING TO FIND BUSH'S MILITARY RECORDS. WHO CARES? FUCK THE RECORDS BE ABOVE THE NAME CALLING AND MUDSLINGING AND ARGUE THE ISSUES. IF YOU DO YOU'LL WIN BECAUSE THE RIGHT CAN'T FIGHT AND WIN ON THE ISSUES THEY NEVER COULD, THEY BULLY AND TRY TO RELY ON DIRTY POLITICS AND NAMECALLING.

Ok I'm done my bp is too high. I just can't believe that this day and age we have political parties, politicians and media people acting like kids in a sandbox. We all need to be fucking scared if that is how we want our politicians to be.

03-08-2004, 02:04 PM	#47 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	See this is why the USA is falling apart. Are there any true issues being debated? Nope just a bunch of name calling back and forth. People who say that character and a person's actions 30-35 years ago matter, are the same people that can't face the issues because they realize thier candidate doesn't stand for what they do. Both sides are guilty. Now if our country truly had a great leader but he saw all this mudslinging and hatred and uncalled for searches, innuendoes and flat out lies about his past, do you really believe he would still run? Hell no. Noone has an innocent past. WE HAVE ALL FUCKED UP AND BURNT BRIDGES AND DONE THINGS WE AREN'T PROUD OF. I also get tired of hearing the excuse "well I'm not running for office like this guy is". Like 30 years ago either of these men thought they truly had a chance. (Well maybe Bush, but I doubt it). As a vet it pisses me off to hear people try to disgrace Kerry's duty. What he did afterward, alot of Nam vets did. For some reason you Righties want to act like 'Nam was some great honor to be in and no man had a right to talk about his perspective when he came back. Sorry, BUT HIS BEING THERE GAVE HIM EVERY RIGHT TO SAY WHATEVER HE WANTED ABOUT THE POLICE ACTION (ANOTHER FALLACY IS CALLING IT A WAR). VIETNAM WAS AN ILLEGAL, NASTY, FEED THE WAR MACHINE, DISGRACE, AND FOR ANYONE TO SAY OTHERWISE TODAY WHEN 30 YEARS AGO THEY DODGED AND PROTESTED NAM ALSO. (HOW DID LIMBAUGH, O'REILLY, ANY OF THESE CRITICS OF KERRY SERVE? AND YET THEY WANT TO JUDGE THE MAN AND TOTALLY IGNORE, EVADE OR LIE ABOUT THE TRUE ISSUES?) CAN ANYONE ELSE SMELL THE BULLSHIT. Just so no one can say I'm one sided. FOR THE LEFT TO WORK SO FUCKING HARD TO TRY TO DIG UP WHETHER W WAS AWOL OR SERVED OR MISSED BUT WAS EXCUSED OR WHATEVER IS PIOUS BULLSHIT ALSO. WHILE THE LEFT AT LEAST FACE SOME ISSUES THEY HAVE SPENT MORE TIME TRYING TO FIND BUSH'S MILITARY RECORDS. WHO CARES? FUCK THE RECORDS BE ABOVE THE NAME CALLING AND MUDSLINGING AND ARGUE THE ISSUES. IF YOU DO YOU'LL WIN BECAUSE THE RIGHT CAN'T FIGHT AND WIN ON THE ISSUES THEY NEVER COULD, THEY BULLY AND TRY TO RELY ON DIRTY POLITICS AND NAMECALLING. Ok I'm done my bp is too high. I just can't believe that this day and age we have political parties, politicians and media people acting like kids in a sandbox. We all need to be fucking scared if that is how we want our politicians to be. __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"