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Thagrastay · 03-06-2004, 02:31 PM

The question which began this thread ran along the lines of wanting to know the difference between Catholics and Christians.

Regardless of what contemporary Catholics may believe about his authority, that single thing which most clearly distinguishes the Catholic entity from the Christian world, and has for 1700 years, is the Papacy.
Catholics are not Christians. They make that distinction themselves.
The Pope is not an Apostle, whose succession goes all the way back to Peter, though that is as lovely a tale as that of Mary's ascension and her dying a virgin. Peter was beheaded in crucifed in Rome, by the Romans- the same Romans who now claim to run the Holy Empire using his same keys. The Pope is not AN Apostle, he is THE apostle- he is The VICAR of CHRIST.
The term VICAR means: One who acts in the place of another, with all the same authority until the first's return.
In other words, Since Jesus was G*D, and He is away for the moment, while He is away, the Pope is acting in His stead, which for the moment makes the Pope no less than G*D on earth.
to put this more in context,
This was the purpose of the Hebrew High Priest, serving in the capacity of speaking for G*D in cases where it were necessary. But with the advent of Pentecost and the outpouring of the Holy Spirit, that was no longer needed. The Teacher and Comforter that Jesus had promised had arrived, and now the Holy Spirit was made manifest to ALL belivers, not just a select few.

Now I'm going to change direction here and re-approach the Idol worshipping subject once again. I, too have many, many friends who are Catholics. In fact, I have married into a Catholic family, which includes nuns, Jesuits and priests as well as lay persons et al. I must confess, coming from an ignorant and rather heathen background myself, I did not understand much of the Catholic faith, but having studied Hinduism for a time, I noticed many similarities in much of their approaches to things concerning idol worship. At any rate, I had only become a Christian, perhaps 3 years before, and was studying the book of Leviticcus, when my wife asked me to accompany her to her families annual mass for her dead grand parents.
At the time, I didn't understand the political significance of this endeavor- but I digress- I paid rapt attention to what was going on, watching everything that took place, and what I saw was straight out of the book of Leviticcus. It was then that I understood- the whole transubstantiation thing- everything. This was not a Christian communion, it was a Hebrew sacrifice.

03-06-2004, 02:31 PM	#19 (permalink)
Thagrastay Crazy Location: Handrail, Montana	The question which began this thread ran along the lines of wanting to know the difference between Catholics and Christians. Regardless of what contemporary Catholics may believe about his authority, that single thing which most clearly distinguishes the Catholic entity from the Christian world, and has for 1700 years, is the Papacy. Catholics are not Christians. They make that distinction themselves. The Pope is not an Apostle, whose succession goes all the way back to Peter, though that is as lovely a tale as that of Mary's ascension and her dying a virgin. Peter was beheaded in crucifed in Rome, by the Romans- the same Romans who now claim to run the Holy Empire using his same keys. The Pope is not AN Apostle, he is THE apostle- he is The VICAR of CHRIST. The term VICAR means: One who acts in the place of another, with all the same authority until the first's return. In other words, Since Jesus was GD, and He is away for the moment, while He is away, the Pope is acting in His stead, which for the moment makes the Pope no less than GD on earth. to put this more in context, This was the purpose of the Hebrew High Priest, serving in the capacity of speaking for G*D in cases where it were necessary. But with the advent of Pentecost and the outpouring of the Holy Spirit, that was no longer needed. The Teacher and Comforter that Jesus had promised had arrived, and now the Holy Spirit was made manifest to ALL belivers, not just a select few. Now I'm going to change direction here and re-approach the Idol worshipping subject once again. I, too have many, many friends who are Catholics. In fact, I have married into a Catholic family, which includes nuns, Jesuits and priests as well as lay persons et al. I must confess, coming from an ignorant and rather heathen background myself, I did not understand much of the Catholic faith, but having studied Hinduism for a time, I noticed many similarities in much of their approaches to things concerning idol worship. At any rate, I had only become a Christian, perhaps 3 years before, and was studying the book of Leviticcus, when my wife asked me to accompany her to her families annual mass for her dead grand parents. At the time, I didn't understand the political significance of this endeavor- but I digress- I paid rapt attention to what was going on, watching everything that took place, and what I saw was straight out of the book of Leviticcus. It was then that I understood- the whole transubstantiation thing- everything. This was not a Christian communion, it was a Hebrew sacrifice. __________________ "That's it! They've got the cuffs on him, he's IN the car!"