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theburner · 03-05-2004, 08:56 AM

<b>Thegrastay</b>

First off, we are going to consult Websters so that we have a culturally accepted definition of the word. Otherwise we are injecting nothing but conjecture into an arguement already rife with it.

Belief: (Mirriam-Webster)
a state or habit of mind in which trust or confidence is placed in some person or thing

Therefore belief is a decision, as you are deciding who to trust and / or confide in. Is it a reaction? Yes, it can be.

Now let's look at Faith:
something that is believed especially with strong conviction

I would submit that based upon the culturally accepted definition of Faith that the worshippers in Jonestown were indeed Faithful. It would take a strong belief and conviction to follow the teachings of Jim Jones.

I request you illustrate a personal attack I have made on you! Have I questioned your comments? Yes. Have I resorted to name calling? No. Am I as impressed with your "credentials" as you are? Not by a long shot.

03-05-2004, 08:56 AM	#49 (permalink)
theburner Canadian Beer Ambassador Location: Cumming, GA	<b>Thegrastay</b> First off, we are going to consult Websters so that we have a culturally accepted definition of the word. Otherwise we are injecting nothing but conjecture into an arguement already rife with it. Belief: (Mirriam-Webster) a state or habit of mind in which trust or confidence is placed in some person or thing Therefore belief is a decision, as you are deciding who to trust and / or confide in. Is it a reaction? Yes, it can be. Now let's look at Faith: something that is believed especially with strong conviction I would submit that based upon the culturally accepted definition of Faith that the worshippers in Jonestown were indeed Faithful. It would take a strong belief and conviction to follow the teachings of Jim Jones. I request you illustrate a personal attack I have made on you! Have I questioned your comments? Yes. Have I resorted to name calling? No. Am I as impressed with your "credentials" as you are? Not by a long shot. __________________ Take Off Eh!