Kadath

I was thinking about this today, unrelated to any discussion. Friend of mine and I were debating the war. He kept bringing up how much France sucks. I finally said "Fine, France sucks. Can we get back to what we're doing wrong?" I'm tired of people (and not just Republicans or right-wingers or talk show hosts or any group in particular) changing the subject and attacking what they perceive to be the other side's hero instead of staying on topic. Clinton was not a perfect president. He did many things wrong. That makes him human. I don't see much of a point in debating him any more. We can't affect his presidency; it's over. I would say likewise for the first Bush, though many of his advisors filtered down to his son, so there is precedent for the wrongs to continue (and, ostensibly, the rights as well). I apply this, to a certain degree, to the discussion of the US training future terrorists as well. If people would just admit that we did wrong in that situation and we shouldn't be so casual about labeling them evil and ourselves good, then it doesn't matter which administration was responsible. It is the hope that the current administration will work to correct those problems, not exacerbate them.

And sixate, as for your comment on O'Reilly's treatment of Glick, pretty weak. I actually have come (in the past few days, you're quite prolific) to expect more thoughtful discussion that "Fuck that guy, he didn't even care about his father's death." O'Reilly literally shouted him down and kicked him off the air. Irrespective of Glick's position, no one deserves to be treated like that. If O'Reilly truly wishes to portray himself as a thoughtful, wordly host, he needs to keep his temper and consider other viewpoints than his own.

That got long. I hope it isn't a thread killer.

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