if I had a rifle to go hunting it'd be this
 

I cant figure out how to get pictures to work here, so sorry, but here is the link.

http://www.imi-israel.com/imi/doa_ii....2.12.2.2.html

Israeli Military Industries Galil Assault Rifle

Look at that bad boy! It says on the website they have a sporting version that is semi automatic and has a longer barrel... it prolly would be expensive and maybe hard to get from a store, but this rifle definitely looks pretty nice, and it would give you a lot of prestige when you were out hunting with your friends and you had this

No,

Your friends would look at you strange because there are better rifles for hunting.

That does however look to be very fun for a day blasting tin cans, which I haven't done for a while.

oh come man! be serious! I know I dont know as much about guns as you, by are you seriously trying to say you think the hunting rifle made by IMI, who is one of the best weapons companies in the world, is only good for shooting tin cans??

No, I'm not saying that.

But that would be the main reason I would own it.

Right now, that's the main reason I own my AR15, except I may do some competition shooting with it at some point.

The other reason to own it would be self defense, but in an urban setting, a hand gun is usually better, or a shotgun.

If I were a rancher, I would consider it as a carry rifle for the field, but then again, I would probably stick to my AR, the .223 being sufficient for coyotes.

Although the .308 would be better for larger critters (bear, mountain lions, etc.)

To each their own I guess. I'm partial to a well made bolt action rifle. The quality of a shot is better than the quantity of shots you can pump out, in my humble opinion. I'm not saying it wouldn't be a cool firearm to have, but I don't see it's practicality as a hunting weapon.

Strange, IMI is no where near the quality and accuracy of an Armalite. Neither is it anywhere near the reliability of a Klashnikov. In short why pay the outrageous price for a galil when you can buy a better AR or several AK's?

In my opinion, IMI is not one of the best weapon companies in the world. They have some very good ideas, but their quality and reliability can be beat by most American or German companies.

I dont know how people can diss IMI!

The Uzi is absolute top of the range for what it is, it is the market leader for that type of gun.

The Desert E .50 AE is one of the most powerful and impressive hand guns about. People have said the realibility isnt that good, I mean Ive never had any gun so I would have to take their word... but one guy basically said, in a home security situation, you could bust a shot at some intruder, go THROUGH A WALL and kill someone in another room!!! That is a powerful handgun!

The sites I read basically said the Galil was based on the concept of the AK47, but updated and more modern. If you out hunting, like a bear or something, I guarantee this bad boy is gonna stop him, one shot, if you catch anywhere near a vital region.

The Israeli army is one of the best armed in the world, through a combination of US and Israeli weapons... I just dont believe that IMI is going to be producing things that arent any good.

Strange, no one is dissing IMI. All everyone is saying is that for the money of an IMI firearm, there are more and better options for more reliable and accurate firearms.

BTW, your UZI analogy is about 15 years to late. The reason the MP5 was created was because of reliability issues with the open bolt design of the UZI. In fact (unless I'm mistaken and please correct me if I'm wrong) I believe the receiver design of the UZI was taken from the M1 Thompson SMG. Unlike Heckler and Koch, IMI is not as good at taking a brilliant gun design and improving it. However, that is a topic for another thread.

Your idea that more power for a defense round is not right. The .50 Action Express round was never designed for self-defense. Pass through rounds are a very bad thing.

The .50 AE is the most powerfull semi-auto round. When you get into revolver rounds, there are so many that make the DE look like a pop-gun.

I think I covered most of your points, if I missed anything please let me know.

Well, people but American cars to be patriotic and if I ever buy a gun Im going to get an IMI!

This rifle looks hot to me, and maybe it would be costly and there could be better things available, but I dont doubt the Galil is gonna do his job.

If I was out hunting something (which I probably am not likely to ever do but if I was) I am pretty confident that this gun is going shoot where I aim it and drop most things it hits, and what more is it supposed to do?

So when were you planning to move out of England?

yah go thru the intruder through the wall in your kids bedroom where it kills them while their sleeping... for home defense you usually want something that stops in the bad guy...

Exactly. You want home defense? Go get a 20ga and put some #4 in it. Problem solved.

And as for hunting, like others have said--how many rounds you can put on target is irrelevant. All that matters is that the first one is true. Animals dont tend to stay around for you to get a second shot off at them.

One shot, one kill... If you're hunting and you end up shooting the animal in the ass instead of the vitals and end up tracking it for 8 hours until it bleeds to death, you should probably be at the range practicing your shot. Like someone else mentioned in another thread, one of the largest grizzly bears ever shot was killed by a single .22 to the head.

But if that .22 hit the grizzly in a non-vital the hunter would make that grizzly a touch larger in size. Stopping power is a nice attribute when hunting large game.

Sorry I'm late on this thread but I just have to add my .02. Strange, Assualt rifles like the one you reference in your comments above are a blast to own and fire but definetly impractical to hunt with. I personally own multiple assualt rifles and hunting rifles. Hunting rifles are low capacity and tend to be very light compared to assualt rifles. It is important to be able to comfortably carry a hunting rifle through the woods for hours until the time comes where you get to take one shot at and animal. There is a very big premium put on high accuracy and low weight. Assualt rifles are much heavier and have much higher capacities. Their purpose is basically for plinking at the range or for defensive/offensive manuevers against other people. My favorite assualt rifle is my Stainless Armalite AR-10. It is a flat top w/black housing and a 20" barrel. I love it, but the damn thing weighs a little over 10 pounds, unscoped, and I would much rather tote my little .270 remington through the woods. I hope that sheds some light on the whole hunting rifle/assualt rifle issue for you. Too bad your political situation restricts the right of gun ownership to you, I love all of mine.

-Dostoevsky

My dream hunting rifle

http://www.blueridgeoutdoorsports.co...35-012226l.jpg

Maybe someday soon...

Edit: My original photo wouldn't post so I don't get my walnut stock...

What rifle is that?
Remington model 700 for me

Heh, i would like a m25 Springfield armory rifle - crafted in memory of Charlos Hathcock - i'm sure most of you know who he is.

Hey Kel, if that question was directed at me that answer is model 7400 if I remember correctly. It is a five shot semi-auto.

Sorry, I was asking astrocloud

Lots of fun, but not so hot for hunting. The Galil ain't bad for it's intended purpose. Bit pricey. Uzi's were once popular because of a number of factors, size and cost being among them. MP-5 is easily the world leader in SMG's insofar as I know. It is just the best, hands down.

Getting back to assault rifles, I'd go for an AR-15 or AK before a Galil. Theey are just better choices economically. Much like your post on the Desert Eagle, you really should try to learn what purpose a weapon is before you tout it's charms in the wrong direction.

For the weight and accuracy, I would go with this one.

http://www.steyr-mannlicher.com/file...ut/scoutgr.jpg

I'd love to try out a Steyr Scout to see how it shoots. At first I thought it was a model 98 mauser with a bent bolt in an aftermarket stock, but the presence of a magazine throws the mauser stock out the window.

Well of course. It would be the equivalent of a little scrawny guy walking up to a body builder and slapping him across the face. :) I was just making a point that you don't need a canon to kill something.

Here's my hunting rifle. I owe 6 of them... :lol:

http://www.emeraldesigns.com/matchup/pics/psg1_1.jpg

I went the gunstore today to get a license for my new dog, saw one of these and almost pee'd my pants. Beautiful...
http://koti.mbnet.fi/astomega/asekuvat/g3_sg1.jpg

Heckler & Koch forever... :)

Aren't we missing the point? If the man wants to go hunting with a modified israeli assault rifle, more power to him. Mabye it's not what a lot of people would do, but isn't the point that he doesn't want to go out there with a winchester just like everybody else?

You own six PSG-1's? OMFG... can I have one?

boo yeah

I like the imi for hunting idea....why not...to each thier own

I'm sure the deer will love him for it.

Um... depends on what you're hunting. A 7.62mm round wont stop a bear on a charge. Yeah that bear that was mensioned was killed by a .22, but it was not charging, and the round was heavily altered (M16s use a .22 also).

Personally I love bolt action rifles because they are simply absolutely the most accurate. With this rifle you sure can hit the bear a number of times, and yeah you will kill it, but I definately wouldnt trust it if I was in the woods.

I've lived out in South Texas where we have wild boards called havolinas (think razorbacks but bigger and just as mean). I've personally been chased by these bastards, and if there wasnt a nice big tree within 30 feet I would have been pretty badly mauled. So when I go out on my friends ranches I always carry my semi-auto 12 gague (9 shells out in less than 9 sec will stop anything). Anyways, just my $.02.

Nothing is meaner or nastier than a razorback... go hogs *former little rock native*

Mauser K-98 (Scout Setup)

http://www.gunboards.com/forums/uplo...ch98kr%201.jpg

p.s. You've got a huge hardon for Israeli Military Industrie's crappy stuff. That's great! Stop dedicating tons of threads to them and people will probably go a bit easier on you.

For me it has to be my Wichester model 70 .270. I love that rifle. It's very accurate and with a bolt it has a very smooth action.

I'd kill for a PSG-1.

The Steyr Scout is pretty accurate for its size and weight, I was impressed by it.

Considering price though, its tough to beat a heavy barrel Remington 700. I prefer a heavy barrel in every situation (competition or otherwise), because they just can't be beat in terms of accuracy. I had a model 700 drilled and tapped to use Anschutz sites and bedded into an Anschutz free rifle stock for competition, and that thing was absurdly accurate for not even having a factory barrel. I'd love to have a 700 mated to a Lilja barrel, though.

The guns at the top of thread are assault rifles??? Do people actually hunt with assault rifles....I mean give me a freakin break! The thread should read..."GUNS I WANT TO FIGHT IN A WAR WITH" Trust me, I have no problems with assault rifles, they're fun to take to the range or out to some remote area and "open up" every now and then, but to hunt with these are redicules. To take big game, as humane as possible, you need a bullet with some weight and velocity behide it.....Muzzel energy! And trust me there's plenty out there to chose from....Just my .02!

Every one should be hunting with assult rifles. You need them for the moddern super animals like the flying squirl and the electric eel. :D

personally, i'd much rather go hunting will me grandads elephant gun.
granted, it's a complete bitch of a weapon to load and fire, and lug around, but if you hunting big game, or you just fancy pulverising smaller animals, then theres nothing like it.

but, seriously, hunting in it's finest is an art form, knowing your prey, becoming one with the weapon, and firing the golden shot, not firing half a thousand rounds into the woods and hoping to hit something a la predetor.

I would probably go hunting with a Barrett .50 cal Sniper Rifle. Actually, hunting wouldnt be the right term for that. More like needless killing of animals.....since nothing would be left.

Hunting with .50 cal would sure help your tracking efforts, but in Michigan you rarely get a shot over 150 yards. Typically your looking at less than 100. So for $$ sake, The .50 is a bad choice...Plus, I would hate to ruin meat with that hog! I prefer my Mathews Legacy, fast, quite, and deadly!