A. Rothschild

I guess it depends on the shock-effect. Taking a round in the chest may not kill you, but the shock you get may. I don't know much about this, but also I'd assume that taking a round anywhere must hurt quite a lot, so I'd say it could rather difficult shooting the person who shot you. I mean, you have a pain, a pain makes you loose concentration and lack of concentration means poor aim. Just my theory, though...

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Kaydron

I'll give A.Rothschild right here, but then again i think that you could at least try to shoot the bastard that shot you...

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kel

Your busy dealing with that sucking feeling in your lungs :-)

That's how my friend the medic described getting hit by an AK in the chest... he was busy trying to breathe! Kind of like getting the wind knocked out of yah... except worse.

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joebmel

yeah !
i also love the sence where they're in the forest running away and they are all giving cover fire, then moving, cover fire, and moving etc..

the tatics were great

BigGov

Bullet-Tooth Tony says his gun is Desert Eagle, point, 5-0.

And I don't think he fires that much...Hang on, I'm gonna go count, I think he only fired 7 shots.

He fires one in the entire scene.

Just checked, the Desert Eagle .50 magically has 8 bullets. At least it consistantly has 8 bullets as both times Bullet Tooth Tony empties his gun he fires 8 bullets.

Blistex

My biggest gripe is when someone gets shot in the chest with a shotgun and is thrown 6 feet by the force of a few grams of lead.

Also Goldeneye while not very realistic had bond drop a gun and pick up a new one (AK-47) which was a first in my experiences with action movies.

DelayedReaction

Equilibrium. Now THERE is quality demonstration of gun usage.

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THGL

Okay, gotta disagree with you on the car jacker theory. Last night I was watching "The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly" on Spike and there's a scene where Tuco (Eli Wallach) was confronted while in the bathtub. After he shot his foe, he stood up, held his pistol out (sideways) and fired a few more times.

j8ear

No, it's definately the five-oh Desert Eagle in SNATCH...Nickel plated, shiney as hell and as big as a bunch of bananas.

Everyone should see that movie. One of the best movies ever made in my opinion. Ever. A 'Mr. Madonna' creation. Written and Directed by Guy Ritchie.

I remember for some reason the .50 AE AMT I used to be capable of 7+1.

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NoSoup

"The Bottomless Clips" annoy me as well, but the 15 rounds out of a revolver pisses me off to no end. I am not a huge weapon enthusiast, but semi-realistic weapons would be appreciated in the movies that I watch.

Just figured I'd throw my 2 cents in.

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geodaro

My favorite is the 12 shot 6-shooter that seems to show up in just about every western! Clint Eastwood is one of the best firearms experts, seeing how he can fire twice as many rounds as his cowboy pistol can possibly hold. What a feat!

JCsreading

Why is it that in every movie ( especially Beverly Hills Cop, but many others as well) the guy is lurking around with his shotgun and when he see's the other guy, he then pumps the slide giving the enemy time to get out of the way!!
Also , any of you tried to fire two handguns at the same time ( if you have the money to have two colt combat comanders with pearl grips for perfect balance!) I certainly would be better served by using my ammo in a single weapon and reloading.

As for just putting in a new mag and pushing the release. If you have taken instruction from a professional then you get told that you should always pull the slide aback and release. It will not waste a shell. you just wan't have to pull as far.( has to do with reliability)
Finally who has the body size to conceal a Desert Eagle with out looking like you have some form of tumor? Certainly not in Arizona in the summer!!!

mkultra

As much as I love Desperado and Once Upon a Time in Mexico there is one thing that always bugs me. The revolrers with silencers. Since the barrel doesn't seal with the cylinder (atleast in almost all revolvers) a silencer won't work like they do in the movies.

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Plaid13

mushroom clouds from granades and cars that blow up with flames shooting out all the glass as if someone thought it was a good idea to store lots of explosives in the front seat next to a lit safty flare. its that or maybe i just havnt noticed how horribly explosive car seats can be

debaser

Was he using an old 1895 Nagant?

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Ok, don't recall if it's been mentioned in this thread but there is a scene from "O Brother Where Art Thou?" that also drives me crazy.

It happens when the three guys have first escaped and are sleeping in the barn and the prison trackers find them and try to smoke them out of the barn with a lit torch. One of the guys throws it back and it lights the prison van on fire, the one with all of the guns and ammunition in it.

Well, in true Hollywood fashion, immediately as soon as it catches fire a) all the ammunition and guns start to shoot and b) all the guns and ammunition start to shoot off.

The fact is that when a bullet cooks off, it explodes like a mini-grenade.

It DOESN'T SHOOT!!!

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DazedMage

Can't name any movies, but the worst for me is to see bullets SPARK a) they are made out of lead! b) when they spark off wood objects like benches or fences.

That just completely ruins the effects for me. Also when they shoot some leaking gasoline, and it ignites. Come on people! Lead don't spark!

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eli

the super unrealistic rambo dual helicopter machine guns are my favourite

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Moonduck

Ever shot a gun? Ever shot a gun at a range that uses steel backplates? Rounds do spark. It's not theatrically impressive, but they do. Most bullets fired in combat weapons are copper jacketed. Copper, when super-heated by immense velocity impacts with unyielding hard objects (ie hitting the steel backplate) does "spark".

There is no legit way they would spark off of a wooden object, but I cannot bring to mind any examples of such silliness so....

That is fairly silly, agreed. While they do spark, the odds are sky-high against ignition.

Moonduck

You, sir, are a gun geek of high order. Bravo! The Nagant was the first thing I thought of as well =)

DazedMage

I actually have, I also make custom guns as a living. All guns I have fired have never sparked. I don't shoot steel backplates or whatever. I also don't shoot military? or "combat" ammo. I usually reload if I shoot anything.

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Moonduck

You've never shot at an indoor range? I take it that you use hardcast lead instead of jacketed rounds when you reload?

Not calling you out, just a bit surprised. You list Utah as your location, and I can imagine that you likely have lots of space out there and don't need to use indoor ranges like I do here in VA.

What sort of guns do you build?

DazedMage

Yes, we do have alot of room out here to shoot. I live in a really small town. We have 2 gun ranges, not that there necessary, but it is nice to have.

I work at a gun shop that builds mainly Thompson Encore/Contender barrels. We build stocks for them also. We do rebarrel Bolt Guns, but not many. Just average single shot, break open action Thompson guns here.

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I've wanted a T/C Contender for years. It just always seems like some other shiny shooty gets in the way whenever I have the money.

I wish I had the space around here to go shooting outdoors.

iktoweya

my thing is grenades in movies in quite a few you will see someone throw a pineapple or a stick and out of that little device will come the biggest explosion possible able to level any type of small building or house.

thats just not real

movies i did like because i watched them with my father, a vietnam veteran, were band of brothers, saving private ryan, thin red line and a few others. when it comes down to it i rely on him to let me know whats legit.

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AxelF

If you ment the Hind... it's very real. I was trained to take them down. (never had to try...)





Nice guns! Many pics at http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/mi-24.htm

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fhqwhgads

Been training regularly for over 6 years now, and no one has ever told me to rack the slide after slapping in a new mag. I've always been taught to just hit the release and come up on target. Out of curiosity, why wouldn't racking the slide eject your top round? Why is it more reliable?

debaser

What he is saying is that you should release the slide from its locked back position by pulling on the slide, not pushing the slide release. I was also taught this method. It is more reliable because it allows more force to be used chambering the round than if the slide simply closes from its stop.

A round will not be ejected because there is nothing on the bolt face, all the rounds are still in the magazine.

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fhqwhgads

Thanks for clearing that up debaser... I originally read that to mean that you rack the slide after closing it. Still...I was never taught this way. Seeing that I'm left handed though, I wonder if this would be easier than trying to hit the slide release with my index finger. I'll have to try it next time I'm on the range... Thanx for the tip.

MangaMonkey

Hi,
I just watched SPR again, and I found that some of you are wrong.
Um, that was an SS Panzergrenadier group moving through there... it's shown several times with the soldier's SS twin-lightning bolt emblem as well as their camouflaged smocks, and when they run into that reconnaissance SdKfz 251 the guy even mentions that it's part of an SS division.
Hardly... that was actually a pretty nice mock up. The tracks were a little off but beyond that it was nice.
This is totally true. The attack seemed like it was led by a confused monkey...
What? He fires one round.
Well, as was noted before, both the Panzerjager Nashorn (aka the Hornisse) and the Marder II (one was a Marder II, the second one that destroys the belltower) were direct tank destroyers, not self propelled artillery guns. They wouldn't have been that direct but they would be right in there, and especially since they didn't know if the Americans maybe had some tanks lying in wait. And how else would they have gone in? They had little space to move down that main street and "marching those tanks into town" was pretty much the only way they could've done it.
Thanks,
Manga

pocon1

Wood will spark if you hit it with bullets, just hit the steel nails that are in it.

Sfaker

It just pisses me off when they unload a full mag at some one 20 feet away and still miss... You know damn well that dude would be swiss cheese...

pocon1

If you have ever seen any of the real cop videos, like the ones from the police car cameras, people have unloaded on each other and missed. One that I remember, the cop was less than ten feet from the perp getting out of his car, and they unloaded on each other, both cop and perp missed. Scary as hell to watch, and happened a few years ago. Also, look at the guy who was shot to death in New York by the police when he was reaching for his wallet. He was framed in a door, 4 cops, 19 or 20 rounds fired, and 4 bullets actually hit him. It can happen.

JoenOcoee

I wish to god I could remember the title of the bad early 90's cop movie I am refering to, but I actually watched the bad guy put a supressor on a revolver.

It's a well known fact that Hollywood grenades are made from no less that 2 gallons of gasoline.

I don't think I have ever seen someone just pick up a shotgun, hit the safety and shoot cause that would make sense. You must first pump it and allow your first shell to fall to the ground so you can use it later.

One of my good friends who was actually a soldier in Africa said "Blackhawk Down" was so-so on thier re-createment. In reality no one from the UN helped the Army cause we didn't inform them before the mission. The Producers, writer, and director chose to falsify that part of the movie so ANTI--UN feelings wouldn't rise here in the US. He also told me that everything was so FUBAR'd that 3/4 US soldiers were left on there own to get out of harms way. The Army had EVERYONE from the base (cooks,clerks,high officers) and gave them rifles and armor and they left the base and met the fleeing soldiers about a mile outside the base.


IMHO rent "Hardboiled". The bad guys are REALLY bad, no one can shoot for shit, a gun was never reloaded during the filming, and there were 15+ civillians killed per 1 badguy. But damn it's still a great movie.

Anyone remember the gun from 'Johnny Dangerously'? The one that shoots through schools.

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Lebell

Ah, the famous .88 magnum

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Moonduck

"Hardboiled" is a great film!