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DazedMage 10-24-2003 08:29 PM

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Originally posted by Moonduck
Ever shot a gun? Ever shot a gun at a range that uses steel backplates? Rounds do spark. It's not theatrically impressive, but they do. Most bullets fired in combat weapons are copper jacketed. Copper, when super-heated by immense velocity impacts with unyielding hard objects (ie hitting the steel backplate) does "spark".
I actually have, I also make custom guns as a living. All guns I have fired have never sparked. I don't shoot steel backplates or whatever. I also don't shoot military? or "combat" ammo. I usually reload if I shoot anything.

Moonduck 10-25-2003 09:06 AM

You've never shot at an indoor range? I take it that you use hardcast lead instead of jacketed rounds when you reload?

Not calling you out, just a bit surprised. You list Utah as your location, and I can imagine that you likely have lots of space out there and don't need to use indoor ranges like I do here in VA.

What sort of guns do you build?

DazedMage 10-25-2003 05:42 PM

Yes, we do have alot of room out here to shoot. I live in a really small town. We have 2 gun ranges, not that there necessary, but it is nice to have.

I work at a gun shop that builds mainly Thompson Encore/Contender barrels. We build stocks for them also. We do rebarrel Bolt Guns, but not many. Just average single shot, break open action Thompson guns here.

debaser 10-25-2003 05:46 PM

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Originally posted by Moonduck
You, sir, are a gun geek of high order. Bravo! The Nagant was the first thing I thought of as well =)
:D

Moonduck 10-26-2003 08:58 AM

I've wanted a T/C Contender for years. It just always seems like some other shiny shooty gets in the way whenever I have the money.

I wish I had the space around here to go shooting outdoors.

iktoweya 10-26-2003 12:09 PM

my thing is grenades in movies in quite a few you will see someone throw a pineapple or a stick and out of that little device will come the biggest explosion possible able to level any type of small building or house.

thats just not real

movies i did like because i watched them with my father, a vietnam veteran, were band of brothers, saving private ryan, thin red line and a few others. when it comes down to it i rely on him to let me know whats legit.

AxelF 10-28-2003 11:42 AM

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Originally posted by eli
the super unrealistic rambo dual helicopter machine guns are my favourite
If you ment the Hind... it's very real. I was trained to take them down. (never had to try...)

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/a...825t-002-s.jpg

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/a...t9209228-s.jpg

Nice guns! Many pics at http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/mi-24.htm

Major war monster warning...

fhqwhgads 10-29-2003 10:58 PM

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Originally posted by JCsreading
As for just putting in a new mag and pushing the release. If you have taken instruction from a professional then you get told that you should always pull the slide aback and release. It will not waste a shell. you just wan't have to pull as far.( has to do with reliability)
Been training regularly for over 6 years now, and no one has ever told me to rack the slide after slapping in a new mag. I've always been taught to just hit the release and come up on target. Out of curiosity, why wouldn't racking the slide eject your top round? Why is it more reliable?

debaser 10-30-2003 03:14 AM

What he is saying is that you should release the slide from its locked back position by pulling on the slide, not pushing the slide release. I was also taught this method. It is more reliable because it allows more force to be used chambering the round than if the slide simply closes from its stop.

A round will not be ejected because there is nothing on the bolt face, all the rounds are still in the magazine.

fhqwhgads 10-30-2003 08:57 AM

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Originally posted by debaser
What he is saying is that you should release the slide from its locked back position by pulling on the slide, not pushing the slide release. I was also taught this method. It is more reliable because it allows more force to be used chambering the round than if the slide simply closes from its stop.

A round will not be ejected because there is nothing on the bolt face, all the rounds are still in the magazine.

Thanks for clearing that up debaser... I originally read that to mean that you rack the slide after closing it. Still...I was never taught this way. Seeing that I'm left handed though, I wonder if this would be easier than trying to hit the slide release with my index finger. I'll have to try it next time I'm on the range... Thanx for the tip.

MangaMonkey 11-12-2003 07:07 PM

Hi,
I just watched SPR again, and I found that some of you are wrong.
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You also seem to have the "10 germans" confused with Waffen SS. A WSS soldier would probably have reacted as you describe, but most of the Infantry in Normandy were non-German conscripts and POW's; Poles, Russians, French, there were even 6 Koreans captured on Omaha. They had no desire to fight for the Nazi regime
Um, that was an SS Panzergrenadier group moving through there... it's shown several times with the soldier's SS twin-lightning bolt emblem as well as their camouflaged smocks, and when they run into that reconnaissance SdKfz 251 the guy even mentions that it's part of an SS division.
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The Tiger was a poor mock-up of a tiger.
Hardly... that was actually a pretty nice mock up. The tracks were a little off but beyond that it was nice.
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infact, the tiger itself was just a problem. it seems like they just let Hans Nobody lead that battlegroup. Strategy way wrong.
This is totally true. The attack seemed like it was led by a confused monkey...
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I believe jackson fires a few too many rounds when taking out the sniper in the bell tower.
What? He fires one round.
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Secondly, no one would march those tanks into the town the way they did. Especially not the marders. Jerry wasnt that depserate as to use marders as main battle tanks. In fact, they should not have even been near the town. Those tanks are used for sitting back and lobbing shells. Not duking it out with other tanks or infantry.
Well, as was noted before, both the Panzerjager Nashorn (aka the Hornisse) and the Marder II (one was a Marder II, the second one that destroys the belltower) were direct tank destroyers, not self propelled artillery guns. They wouldn't have been that direct but they would be right in there, and especially since they didn't know if the Americans maybe had some tanks lying in wait. And how else would they have gone in? They had little space to move down that main street and "marching those tanks into town" was pretty much the only way they could've done it.
Thanks,
Manga

pocon1 11-12-2003 07:17 PM

Wood will spark if you hit it with bullets, just hit the steel nails that are in it.:D

Sfaker 11-24-2003 12:52 AM

It just pisses me off when they unload a full mag at some one 20 feet away and still miss... You know damn well that dude would be swiss cheese...

pocon1 11-24-2003 10:42 AM

If you have ever seen any of the real cop videos, like the ones from the police car cameras, people have unloaded on each other and missed. One that I remember, the cop was less than ten feet from the perp getting out of his car, and they unloaded on each other, both cop and perp missed. Scary as hell to watch, and happened a few years ago. Also, look at the guy who was shot to death in New York by the police when he was reaching for his wallet. He was framed in a door, 4 cops, 19 or 20 rounds fired, and 4 bullets actually hit him. It can happen.

JoenOcoee 11-25-2003 04:04 AM

I wish to god I could remember the title of the bad early 90's cop movie I am refering to, but I actually watched the bad guy put a supressor on a revolver.

It's a well known fact that Hollywood grenades are made from no less that 2 gallons of gasoline.

I don't think I have ever seen someone just pick up a shotgun, hit the safety and shoot cause that would make sense. You must first pump it and allow your first shell to fall to the ground so you can use it later.

One of my good friends who was actually a soldier in Africa said "Blackhawk Down" was so-so on thier re-createment. In reality no one from the UN helped the Army cause we didn't inform them before the mission. The Producers, writer, and director chose to falsify that part of the movie so ANTI--UN feelings wouldn't rise here in the US. He also told me that everything was so FUBAR'd that 3/4 US soldiers were left on there own to get out of harms way. The Army had EVERYONE from the base (cooks,clerks,high officers) and gave them rifles and armor and they left the base and met the fleeing soldiers about a mile outside the base.


IMHO rent "Hardboiled". The bad guys are REALLY bad, no one can shoot for shit, a gun was never reloaded during the filming, and there were 15+ civillians killed per 1 badguy. But damn it's still a great movie.

Anyone remember the gun from 'Johnny Dangerously'? The one that shoots through schools.

Lebell 11-25-2003 11:32 AM

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Originally posted by JoenOcoee

Anyone remember the gun from 'Johnny Dangerously'? The one that shoots through schools.

Ah, the famous .88 magnum :D

Moonduck 11-25-2003 03:30 PM

"Hardboiled" is a great film!


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