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sadatx 08-02-2003 12:46 PM

Best pocket knife?
 
What are people's opinions about the best folding pocket knife? I'm looking to buy something I can carry around with me anywhere (except, of course, if I'm traveling by plane). I'm partial to a knife that's just a knife (not a swiss army knife).

debaser 08-02-2003 01:10 PM

I have a CRKT M-16 and a Spyderco. Love 'em both. Knives are such a personal thing, though. I'd hesitate to reccomend any particular one. Just go to a knife shop and find one you like.

Lebell 08-02-2003 01:16 PM

I'll double the recommendation on the Columbia River Knife and Tool M-16.

Good knife for the money (online anywhere from 40-60$ depending on the specific model).

Brentski 08-02-2003 01:44 PM

I go with the old classic, a buck knife

Exodus 08-02-2003 03:31 PM

Ive always been partial to Kershaw and Benchmade

krwlz 08-02-2003 03:51 PM

Schrade Old timer....Good solid knife.

MacGnG 08-02-2003 08:42 PM

gerber stealth. i like it. nice solid knife.

http://knifeoutlet.com/

shakran 08-02-2003 09:42 PM

What do you want to do with it? Skin deer? Whittle? Defense?

If it's for defense and you don't feel like breaking the bank get a Spyderco. the Endura is nice, but illegal in some places. The Delica is pretty much legal anywhere as long as you have it clipped to your pocket so the clip is showing (if it's all the way in your pocket it's a concealed weapon and you need a permit for it)

BTW, if you don't already know how, enroll in a class to learn how to fight with it. A Kali school would be a good place for knife fighting.

RedCometChar 08-02-2003 10:28 PM

Roger that on the Gerbers. Flips open real smooth.

Fire 08-03-2003 12:49 AM

I sell knives and swords, and make it a point to handle, fondle and generaly kick the tires on as many as i can- The CRKT endorsement is true, never yet had a customer complain, own several myself- only problem was that I frequently left mine on the dresser- soloution was a spiderco spidercard- nice folder, thin, designed to store in the wallet like a credit card- never forget it, and is nice and sharp- btw check the local laws for legal blade length- some places they get realy uptight about that , especialy cities- mostly 3" seems safe, except some realy paranoid places like boston....

JimmyTheHutt 08-03-2003 01:24 AM

Re: Best pocket knife?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sadatx
What are people's opinions about the best folding pocket knife? I'm looking to buy something I can carry around with me anywhere (except, of course, if I'm traveling by plane). I'm partial to a knife that's just a knife (not a swiss army knife).
Depending on what you want to use it for, I'd recommend Spyderco, or if you can find them, some of the old Emerson designed Benchmade's. I own two of them myself, and they have been super-reliable and useful for numerous things besides self protection. Keep in mind that they are pretty handy for that too :) .

Really, you're best option is to go to a GOOD knife shop and look at what they have. Play with a few and find out what you like. Also, the people there should be fairly knowledgeable and more than willing to help you make a good purchase.

Good luck!

Veritas en Lux!
Jimmy The Hutt

marcopolo 08-03-2003 08:23 AM

I carry a Victorinox ' Bartender' knife .
It has 2 blades of legal length a cork screw , bottle opener , toothpick and tweezers . I will not leave the house without this knife in my pocket as I use it everyday .
I also have to mention how the blade really holds an edge .

nowthen 08-03-2003 10:04 AM

CRKT M-16. In terms of quality and value for money, you just cannot go wrong.

I have the titanium model with the spear point blade. This model also has the Carson Flipper, which you can use to open the blade. With a little practice it is like having an auto. You can get that thing off the clip and snapped open in a blink of an eye.

more fire 08-03-2003 06:36 PM

Opinel. It's a pitty for me that there illegal in britain.

cj2112 08-03-2003 07:06 PM

I have a 1st generation Spyderco that is probably the best knife I have ever owned. I would buy another in a heartbeat.

i8one2 08-03-2003 08:41 PM

I have a CRKT M-16, Kershaw 1620 both excellent. My next purchase with be a Smith and Wesson 911 first response.

sadatx 08-03-2003 11:34 PM

Thanks for the suggestions. Tough decision. I might go with the CRKT, but considering my proclivity for leaving things I need at home, I might go with that spydercard, I always have my wallet with me.

ireallydontknow 08-03-2003 11:50 PM

Leatherman Waves... the perfect tool

Slims 08-04-2003 12:03 AM

I have an old CQC-7. I've had it since I was in the seventh grade (I'm a senior in college now) and it is still going strong. I have beat it up and abused it in every possible way, even opening bottles, swimming in the ocean, digging, etc. and it never needs more than a good cleaning and occasional sharpening.

I don't think benchmade still makes them though.

Slims 08-04-2003 12:06 AM

Oh, don't get a CRKT. IMHO they have a major flaw in their open design. When I worked at an outdoor stoor, we had a guy come in and tell us that we had better not sell them. As it turns out, he was on a rafting trip with one clipped to his life jacket. At one point wile paddling his wrist brushed against it and opened the blade (not all the way, I don't think) and when he pulled his arm back across his body, the blade speared him through the wrist in a really horrible way (the scar wa gruesome). I am not comfortable with a pocketknife that doesn't enclose the blade.

Moonduck 08-04-2003 07:17 AM

I like CRKT's knives in general as well. I think the knife you're thinking of, Greg700, is the CRKT KISS knife. It is much more likely to have been the knife in that story. An M-16 is a fairly standard design.

I would also ask what conditions will you be using the knife under? I carry three knives daily. One is a teensy little Victorinox that is on my keychain. Has a small blade, nail file, and a pair of scissors. I trim my nails with it, whee. Second is a smaller needle-nosed Gerber Multi-plier in a belt sheath. Given my line of work, it is handly. Coupla blades, scissors, screwdrivers, etc. Third is a Beretta Airlight with alloy scales. Prior to the job I am in now, I wore dress pants constantly. The Airlight is a very nice, slim, light knife with a pretty darn good amount of utility, and it does not show up even through thin material (I'd have to wear spandex for it to print through my clothes). As I use the Multi-plier for most cutting duties these days, I've not switched out my "pocket" kinfe for anything meatier.

So, again, what use are you planning on putting this knife to, and under what conditions?

bparker805 08-05-2003 11:56 AM

My personal fav is the Kershaw Leek. Good sized blade, low pofile, a number of finishes, and the "speed safe" mechanism doesn't hurt either. I also like the fact that it is legal in the the state of California (for the moment).

sportsrule101 08-05-2003 12:23 PM

live near 2 local factories, one that makes Case knives which i have which holds a very good edge and Ka-bar which makes knives for the army so you know its got to be durable both of these companies make unbelievably good knives at good prices

Buzz 08-06-2003 10:16 AM

I did go with krwlz Schrade Old timer.... thats what I have.

Mill 08-06-2003 01:05 PM

This is a great post, i've been looking for a good knife after all the camping I have been doing this year. This got me looking around.

After looking around, I found the CRKT KISS is not recomended to be worn on the outside. That's what the rafter did wrong in the post above.

What's a good blade material? I am not worring about sharping it in the field, or it corroding as I maintain things fairly well and only go boating in freshwater.

How much quicker would AUS-8 or AUS-6M wear compared to AUS-118? I know the price difference is alot. I have not seen any advantages/dissadvantages with 440C stainless or ceramic either.

gump 08-06-2003 04:14 PM

i'm going to have to go with a Case XX trapper. very well crafted and a long history of craftsmanship. cant go wrong

Cujo 08-08-2003 06:20 PM

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Originally posted by Brentski
I go with the old classic, a buck knife
Me too. I've had my folding Buck for 22 years now and have beaten the shit out of that poor old knife over the years. Still works as well as the day I bought it. Gerbers are nice too.

Ashton 08-09-2003 01:43 PM

Schrade Scrimshaw....... Keeps a great edge.

mines the one on the lower right hand corner......


http://www.newtonrep.com/images/knives5.jpg

TRPF 08-10-2003 04:38 PM

Benchmade- Mel Pardue.


Very nice unit. Teflon coated blade, With or w/o the serrations...

steveincolumbus 08-11-2003 06:55 AM

good recomendation TRPF

Benchmade- Mel Pardue. its my daily carry

i have about 40 pocket knives and the only things that i will carry is Benchmade, they are US made they arethe choose for most military personel, don't rust like CRKT has always done and hold an edge very good. the other knife is a small Wenger swiss army knive on my keys, good for very small tasks....
I put my knives to use every day and the Benchmades are some of the strongest knives to have.

SpunkSpewer 07-02-2008 03:15 PM

Best knife
 
I have a pocket knife that I use every day. It is far better than any other pocket knife so far mentioned. It is small enough to comfortably carry in your pocket, and It has a nice and quick thumb open grip. It always maintains a razor sharp edge. It requires no skill to sharpen. I cut insulation, boxes, wire, drywall, concrete board, fingernails, twigs, etc almost on a daily basis. I employ a number of men that I also require carry this knife at all times. They make them pretty impressive to look at nowadays too. I think it's about 7bucks at home depot. they fold and have disposable quick change blades. Craftsman has them too- lifetime warranty. Craftsman has them with a nice wood handle. And for around 15bucks with the Great Neck 12119, you can store blades in the handle

Fire 07-02-2008 05:13 PM

schrade and old timer are now defunct, have been bought by chinese firms, and are now made in china- they are not all that bad, but the new ones are not the product that the old was......

longbough 07-02-2008 09:19 PM

Benchmade mini-AFCK

Rippley 07-07-2008 02:15 AM

I am a huge fan of my Emerson CQC - and they are still available, if a bit expensive. Built to take a beating, though.
I also own a CRKT M16. Only complaint is that it has started to rust around the assist-stud on the blade. Other that that, it has done increadibly well by me for the 6 years I've owned it.

Ultimately, however, it's all down to what feels right in your hand. Go to a good shop, fondle them all, take home the one you pick up twice...

StanT 07-15-2008 07:56 AM

I carry a Benchmade 690.

Elishewitz design, quality materials and construction, it's a pleasure to use.

Benchmade has discontinued it, but they are readily available on Ebay.

THGL 07-24-2008 05:44 AM

I'm going to 2nd the notion of a Victorinox knife. Just because it's a "Swiss Army knife" doesn't mean it has to be a huge one!. They make single (Junior) and double blade (Excelsior) folders that are really low profile so it doesn't look like you have a tumor on your thigh.

I have two Vict. knives I carry (at different times).
With jeans or khakis I carry the Bantam (single large blade on one side, bottle opener on the other).
With dress pants I carry the "Secretary", which is like the Excelsior but with thinner metal sides instead of the usual red plastic.

robot_parade 07-24-2008 07:11 PM

I bought a Gerber Clutch last week...It seems to meet my needs pretty well. I was looking for something tiny (which it is), with the right set of tools, which it (mostly) has. I'm not sure how durable it will end up being...there's already a little more of a 'wobble' between the two halves than I'd like, though it's put together with torx screws, so I think I can tighten it.

The feel of it for opening the pliers and tools is very 'tight' - very snappy spring-loaded action going on. The blade is decently sharp. The pliers are pretty good for their size, and include a wire stripper at the base. The other tools are:

o A nail file. Uh, ok, I guess.
o tweasers. Haven't had to use them yet. They seem to twease.
o Small flat screwdriver. Fine.
o Larger flat screwdriver + bottle opener. The bottle opener..works, sort of. So small that it takes a few tries to fully open a beer bottle.
o 'Phillips' screwdriver - not really, since it's just as flat as the flat screwdrivers, it just tapers at the end a bit. Seems to work for a fairly small range of screws.

So I'm not blown away, but hey, it was $17 and fits on my keychain. As long as it doesn't break right away, I'll be satisfied.

jorgelito 07-24-2008 08:53 PM

Are Smith & Wessons any good? I bought one on sale awhile back on a whim. I am curious as to its quality.

Plan9 07-26-2008 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jorgelito (Post 2494479)
Are Smith & Wessons any good? I bought one on sale awhile back on a whim. I am curious as to its quality.

Iffy at best. I think they're mediocre blades stamped S&W to sell, really. Instead, get yourself a Cold Steel or a CRKT or something along those lines. Gun manufacturer tagged knives are either mediocre (S&W, Colt) or good quality with exorbitant pricing (H&K).

Bladetech makes the "Mouse Lite" a top drawer mini-folder I've grown to appreciate.

Bladetech Mouse Lite

Tully Mars 07-27-2008 09:28 AM

I got several I take depending on what I'm doing. I have about three dive knives. Two small, about 2 1/2in, with saw like blades and a larger, 5in. I have two B/C's so the small ones are attached to the B/C's. The larger one I strap to my leg. I've been tangled in fishing nets and crab lines one too many times. Drop you knife and you're screwed.

I also have a "fisherman" Swiss Army. It's a little big and clumsy but has a ton of tools on it. It keeps a good edge, IMO.

And I have a Geber Gator 3in. It opens with a flick of the wrist and keeps an edge well. Someone gave it to me for taking them fishing several times one season. I wouldn't have bought a Geber. I have another on my Ex gave me nearly 30 years ago. It has my name engraved on it, but is worthless and won't hold an edge for shit.

JoeBlow131b 07-28-2008 01:58 PM

I'm a big Benchmade fan... I also suggest getting an Emerson.

krystalogik 08-04-2008 11:48 PM

I saw that the CRKT M16 was recommended a lot, and wanted to add a note to that : do not buy any of the lower end M-16s. the AUS-6 mine was made of was horrible, and would not keep an edge for longer than 2 weeks (without being used!).

I've been adequately happy with my SOG Trident for quite some time now, although I would've like it in CM154, or even better, S30V.

I dislike most Spydercos, but only because of the backlock. I've had the locking mechanism fail on me while in use because I gripped it too hard (I have meaty hands). They've gotten better about release placement in recent years, so don't write them off. I do really like the Spyderco Native; It's very light, for every day carry, without sacrificing usability.

Find a locking mechanism that you like and are comfortable with. I prefer Axis locks, or similar. CRKT should be lauded for their auto-lawks system, for liner locks.

It's very important to know what is and isn't legal in your locality. Most people in California think that there is a limit on the length of a folding knife. There isn't.

For California, the pertinent information can be found in section 12020 of the State Penal code, and might be linkable here : WAIS Document Retrieval Nowhere is there a mention of length limits.

Good thing to know as well:
Quote:

A nonlocking folding knife, a folding knife that is not
prohibited by Section 653k (switchblade regulations), or a pocketknife is capable of ready use
as a stabbing weapon that may inflict great bodily injury or death
only if the blade of the knife is exposed and locked into position.
(comment added)


...which means that a closed folding knife can always be carried concealed in the state of California.

Starkizzer 08-05-2008 02:04 PM

I love my Benchmade Griptillian! Its functional, looks a little reptillian hence the name, and it stays sharp. Plus its a decent size to carry.

im2smrt4u used to work at a cutlery store and thats the first knife he bought for me. He has lots of really nice knives,pocket and otherwise. I also really like my Kershaw Leek, its really sleek looking but usefull.

krystalogik 08-05-2008 09:18 PM

3 of my friends have the griptilian, and love them, but I find their handles a bit too small for me. (6'4", hands to match).

I've been looking at the Benchmade Pardues (model 520/523) because their handles are similar to my nimravus, which I love. Need to go find someone with one in stock...

im2smrt4u 08-06-2008 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krystalogik (Post 2501679)
3 of my friends have the griptilian, and love them, but I find their handles a bit too small for me. (6'4", hands to match).

I've been looking at the Benchmade Pardues (model 520/523) because their handles are similar to my nimravus, which I love. Need to go find someone with one in stock...

I'm really suprised that the discontinued that one. A really solid knife!

im2smrt4u 08-06-2008 02:31 PM

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As far as a "best pocket knife" goes, the answer is different for everyone, and often changes over time.

For me, right now, I carry my Benchmade 940-TI most of all. Titanium frame, AXIS lock, S30V blade, slim, and fairly light. I love it!

However, I've got all sorts of other knives from cheap productions to high end customs. One of my favorites has to be the Grant & Gavin Hawk External Toggle. It features assisted open and close by pushing on the back toggle. At $650, the custom version is a bit pricey for most, but Kershaw makes a production version that is very nice.

slick50 08-08-2008 05:45 PM

I carry a Case Pocketworn folder (small Texas Toothpick) and have for a couple years. I buy, collect or accumulate the more traditional styles and handle materials.
I like most of the CRKT knives and buy them as gifts.
Go to a knife store and touch, feel, hold, put in your pocket, open, close, repeat.

JStrider 08-12-2008 11:57 AM

I carry a Benchmade PIKA cheap enough that I wouldnt be upset if I lost it, but it definitely gets a job done.

I also carry a couple different victorinox swiss army knives... either one of the smaller ones, or one of the big ones, depending on how big my pockets are/ what I'm doing

Tirian 08-12-2008 06:58 PM

I carry my leatherman wave everywhere. Also like the Victorianox Trekker.
All locking everything, and the saws on both are amazing survival tools.

Although I realize that neither qualify for your first question of knifes without all the folding accessories.

Plaid13 08-15-2008 07:49 PM

I also carry a leatherman but i have the charge ti instead of the wave. almost exactly the same though. But yeah not just a simple folding knife. But based on the quality of the multitools they make I assume the folding knives they make are just as nice. Might be worth looking into. But i do suggest getting a leatherman multitool if you ever want something with more then just a simple blade.

Force 10 11-01-2008 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by more fire (Post 474110)
Opinel. It's a pitty for me that there illegal in britain.

Oh don't pity us, we may very well be on our way.

I happen to like my Cold Steel Ti-Lite folder.
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruprex (Post 2553949)
Oh don't pity us, we may very well be on our way.

I happen to like my Cold Steel Ti-Lite folder.


DonnieBoy 11-07-2008 08:38 PM

You just can't go wrong with Case knives. American Made and dependable.

I have a few I like the RussLock and Seahorse Whittler Styles myself.

W.R. Case & Sons Cutlery Company Handcrafted Knives

Walt 11-11-2008 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg700 (Post 475237)
I have an old CQC-7. I've had it since I was in the seventh grade (I'm a senior in college now) and it is still going strong. I have beat it up and abused it in every possible way, even opening bottles, swimming in the ocean, digging, etc. and it never needs more than a good cleaning and occasional sharpening.

I don't think benchmade still makes them though.

Unfortunately, Im inclined to agree. Ive also had an Emerson CQC 7 since the seventh grade, though mine has the black teflon coating which makes it slightly cooler than Gregs.

Its a great knife and Benchmade customer service is hard to beat. I once watched a buddy try to cut a live high voltage power line with a CQC 7. Almost melted the blade clean in half. He sent it in. Benchmade didnt ask any questions, just threw a new blade on there and shipped it back.

phathom 03-08-2009 11:50 AM

The one I carry is actually the Kershaw Multi-tool. They no longer sell them, but if you can find one they are gold. Has a serated/flat blade of legal length that pops out extremely fast with a very little effort in the wrist and a gentle flick of the thumb. It is very comfortable to use and also includes the following inside the multi-tool. Flathead and Philips Screwdriver, file, bottle opener, Hacksaw as well as pliers/wire cutters/locking vice grips that also are adjustable via screw on the handle. The most versatile tool I have ever used, and works great for defense as you don't have to open it up to get the blade out, it's right there on the outside ready to be used. Only complaint I have about it, is that the tools don't lock into place when out like the newer leathermans do, but really it doesn't make a difference to me. I will choose hands down as the "Only thing you can choose to have with you if you get lost in the forest/desert island, etc scenario."

FuglyStick 03-08-2009 12:36 PM

I carry a Gerber Paraframe. The quality of Gerber knives varies a great deal. I bought my Paraframe at Walmart for under $30. There are a lot better knives out there, but I'm not worried about losing or damaging it; it can be easily replaced. It's a bit large if you wear slacks to work, but it fits nicely in a pair of jeans--the blade is just short of 4 inches, but it is a slim and relatively light weight design. It is partially serrated, which many people think is unnecessary; I DO have occasion to cut rope and cardboard quite a bit, so I appreciate the serration. All in all, it's a pretty practical knife, for those who actually use a knife.

blade02 03-08-2009 12:36 PM

I carry a Case knife. I'm not sure of the model, but its single bladed, drop point, lock blade with a black plastic handle. I carry it every day, everywhere I go. Simple, American built and dependable and less than $20.

Turpis 03-08-2009 03:19 PM

to everybody who has actually stabbed or been stabbed put your hand up...

yeah, thought so. a knife is an offensive weapon. if you are purchasing one for defensive purposes you have already set yourself back by not realizing the purpose of the knife.

if however you do however want to kill someone i would suggest an oldschool bayonette look at the blade. is the blade diamond or flat? how heavy is it? how thick is it? most of these little flip knives are good for kids only. they are flimsy and lack the leverage necessary to pry with. if you have never had to use your knife to pry then you have never worked with your hands.

my knife is a solingen made richaherder. i cant find any pics of the particular knife but this one has the almost same handle(http://www.youwantit2.com/205818NEW.jpg mine is however not a bowie knife). alot of people like flip knives cause they feel cool when they snap them out. I agree they can be handy but they are all ultimately cheap. get something with a full tang and a good handle with a guard.

my REAL knife is a german made swedish contract bayonette. these were made to clip on a K98, it has a special hollow where it clips in so that you can ground a radio wire. (yeah i dont need to ground radio wire right now, but who says i never will?)
http://www.lawranceordnance.com/lawr...sh-bayonet.jpg

FuglyStick 03-08-2009 03:28 PM

My knife is a tool, not a weapon.

Turpis 03-08-2009 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by FuglyStick (Post 2606098)
My knife is a tool, not a weapon.

and you get what you pay for. $30 knife is not something im going to be able to give to my son should i chose to have one. nor would i want to for that matter.

i bought my main one off an old farmer who had had it for a while and it doesnt look like its about to break any time.

you stick with your kids toolkit ill take my snap-on thank you.

telekinetic 03-08-2009 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turpis (Post 2606111)
and you get what you pay for. $30 knife is not something im going to be able to give to my son should i chose to have one. nor would i want to for that matter.

i bought my main one off an old farmer who had had it for a while and it doesnt look like its about to break any time.

you stick with your kids toolkit ill take my snap-on thank you.

Why the hate? I carry a $17 Gerber Easy-Out and a $30 Boker ResCom. Would the custom Howard Viel Spyderco or the Benchmade auto that sit in my nightstand open boxes and cut rope any better?

Slims 03-08-2009 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turpis (Post 2606092)
to everybody who has actually stabbed or been stabbed put your hand up...

yeah, thought so. a knife is an offensive weapon. if you are purchasing one for defensive purposes you have already set yourself back by not realizing the purpose of the knife.

if however you do however want to kill someone i would suggest an oldschool bayonette look at the blade. is the blade diamond or flat? how heavy is it? how thick is it? most of these little flip knives are good for kids only. they are flimsy and lack the leverage necessary to pry with. if you have never had to use your knife to pry then you have never worked with your hands.

my knife is a solingen made richaherder. i cant find any pics of the particular knife but this one has the almost same handle(http://www.youwantit2.com/205818NEW.jpg mine is however not a bowie knife). alot of people like flip knives cause they feel cool when they snap them out. I agree they can be handy but they are all ultimately cheap. get something with a full tang and a good handle with a guard.

my REAL knife is a german made swedish contract bayonette. these were made to clip on a K98, it has a special hollow where it clips in so that you can ground a radio wire. (yeah i dont need to ground radio wire right now, but who says i never will?)
http://www.lawranceordnance.com/lawr...sh-bayonet.jpg


Do you also duct-tape armor-plates around your torso?

FYI, I have used a knife to end an attempt on my life. As soon as I pulled it out the encounter ended and the person who was attacking me made a quick retreat. In that particular instance I ended the encounter by introducing a knife. Had the attack not stopped, I would have been able to stab his neck/arms and I am absolutely positive my non-bayonet shaped knife would have convinced him to stop choking me.

As for prying ability...If the people who have posted to this thread have not broken their knives, then they have likely picked a tool which suits their needs. No need to carry a crowbar around if you do not use one during the course of your day.

Your bayonet is a fantastic tool, but most people would probably look out of sorts carrying a bayonet around with them. If you are in a place where you can carry whatever you want, then why bring a bayonet to a gun fight?

Additionally, it was state-of-the-art for a mass produced tool 40 years ago. We can do much better now.

Turpis 03-08-2009 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twistedmosaic (Post 2606150)
Why the hate? I carry a $17 Gerber Easy-Out and a $30 Boker ResCom. Would the custom Howard Viel Spyderco or the Benchmade auto that sit in my nightstand open boxes and cut rope any better?

thats the attitude that got American luxury cars looking like asian family cars and not the other way around. nobody cares about quality anymore or lasting performance and endurance.

i dont know how any of those cuts because i'd consider the most expensive among them of bad make. put simply two words: 'moving parts'. folders, flippers whatever they are for show. the only reason you need a knife in pocket at all times is if you intend to use it for hurting someone. if you are working you have your tools with you if you dont have your tools... well then you aint working are you?

FuglyStick 03-08-2009 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twistedmosaic (Post 2606150)
Why the hate? I carry a $17 Gerber Easy-Out and a $30 Boker ResCom. Would the custom Howard Viel Spyderco or the Benchmade auto that sit in my nightstand open boxes and cut rope any better?

Thank you. There's a correct tool for every job. Sure, I could carry a $200 pocket knife--there are plenty of fine examples to choose from. But I use my knife nearly every day, for some not so glamorous chores, not to impress anyone.

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Originally Posted by Turpis (Post 2606177)
thats the attitude that got American luxury cars looking like asian family cars and not the other way around. nobody cares about quality anymore or lasting performance and endurance.

i dont know how any of those cuts because i'd consider the most expensive among them of bad make. put simply two words: 'moving parts'. folders, flippers whatever they are for show. the only reason you need a knife in pocket at all times is if you intend to use it for hurting someone. if you are working you have your tools with you if you dont have your tools... well then you aint working are you?

You are clueless, and have obviously never done a real days work.

the weekend warrior is among us.

Turpis 03-08-2009 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Slims (Post 2606173)
FYI, I have used a knife to end an attempt on my life. As soon as I pulled it out the encounter ended and the person who was attacking me made a quick retreat. In that particular instance I ended the encounter by introducing a knife. Had the attack not stopped, I would have been able to stab his neck/arms and I am absolutely positive my non-bayonet shaped knife would have convinced him to stop choking me.

I am absolutely positive that he was not that into it then. if he was he would have pulled a knife too and yours would not have been much good. you do not understand the mindset of someone who wants to kill you. secondly you should be able to stop an attacker if you cant fight unarmed how can you expect to fight armed? that's a fundamental of every martial art around the world.

Slims 03-08-2009 05:38 PM

Oh, and a follow on.

I originally posted in this thread in 2003.

My Benchmade CQC-7 is still going strong and has not yet failed me in any way. I have done horrible things to this knife as I joined the military after college and carried it through all kinds of military schools and to Afghanistan. I have used it to dig holes, cut wire, sheet metal, chop wood, dove with it in salt water, carried through swamps and in the desert sand. It has alway opened, always got the job done and has not yet failed me. Additionally it folds up small enough I will always have it with me vs. the sheath knife that stays behind in my deployment bag due to it's size.

Right now I am trying a new Zero Tolerance auto that seems fairly sturdy. I am not sure how durable the auto mechanism is, but I am fairly confident the metal in the blade will break before the 'hinge' will if I chose to pry that hard with it.

I have destroyed a Benchmade Nimravus (fixed blade) and it has held up very well. Also I have carried a SOG Daggert for a while and it is a good knife, though being a single-purpose knife is not nearly as sturdy as a utility knife.

Turpis 03-08-2009 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by FuglyStick (Post 2606179)
You are clueless, and have obviously never done a real days work.

the weekend warrior is among us.

oh sorry i didnt realize cutting up boxes behind burger king was real work these days. i suppose i over looked the soft materials workers paper tie cutting folk or maybe you use em to turn screws? smart one dull your knife and strip the head. the fact that you couldn't come up with anything else points to your own inexperience. try some farm work sometime son you will get my drift i guarantee you that.

Slims 03-08-2009 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Turpis (Post 2606181)
I am absolutely positive that he was not that into it then. if he was he would have pulled a knife too and yours would not have been much good. you do not understand the mindset of someone who wants to kill you. secondly you should be able to stop an attacker if you cant fight unarmed how can you expect to fight armed? that's a fundamental of every martial art around the world.

Ok buddy.

First, I was seated in a car with the seatbelt on when a much larger man reached through the open window and before I realized what was going on he began to choke me, lifting me up and back pinning me against the seatbelt and the seat of the car so I could not reach the shift-lever or maneuver in any way. I was able to pull the knife from my pocket which caused him to let go and allowed me to get the car in gear and floor it.

If you can show me the style of martial arts which allows you to overpower a much larger man in that circumstance let me know.

Second, sure, you *should* be able to stop an attacker who is unarmed, but life isn't fair and a smart attacker won't be either. By the time you realize you are in a fight he may have already screwed you up, he may be better at it than you, or he may have a friend or two.


Third, if you respond to deadly force by producing a knife and your assailant does the same then you have not made the situation any worse...you are still fighting for your life, just now you have a weapon.

Fourth, MOST attacks in the United States are opportunistic and the assailant typically is not willing to sit around and get cut/shot just to hurt you. They are after easy targets and as soon as you stop being easy they take off. There are always exceptions and it is prudent to plan for the worst-case situation, but the worst-case isn't what typically happens.

Fifth, I have no intention of sticking around after an encounter to watch my attacker slowly bleed to death/find a weapon. If I have to use a knife it will be to create space so I can either 1: Run away or 2: Draw a gun. A simple folding knife is more than adequate for the intended job.

Sixth, it is awfully presumptuous of you to assume I have no idea what a life-and-death fight is like.

FuglyStick 03-08-2009 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Turpis (Post 2606184)
oh sorry i didnt realize cutting up boxes behind burger king was real work these days. i suppose i over looked the soft materials workers paper tie cutting folk or maybe you use em to turn screws? smart one dull your knife and strip the head. the fact that you couldn't come up with anything else points to your own inexperience. try some farm work sometime son you will get my drift i guarantee you that.

Son. Cute.

I'm not going to get in a flame war with you, because you're not worth it. My $30 knife has served me as well as the more expensive knives that have come before it, for a variety of chores, from stripping wire to cutting fuel line. To say that the only reason to carry a knife is as a weapon is nothing but ignorance. After the hammer, the knife is probably the most useful tool that man has ever utilized.

Tough guy. :rolleyes:

telekinetic 03-09-2009 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Turpis (Post 2606177)
i dont know how any of those cuts because i'd consider the most expensive among them of bad make. put simply two words: 'moving parts'. folders, flippers whatever they are for show. the only reason you need a knife in pocket at all times is if you intend to use it for hurting someone. if you are working you have your tools with you if you dont have your tools... well then you aint working are you?

OK, I propose two scenarios. Let me introduce you to one of my two (three actually) daily carries first:
http://www.jsburlysflashlights.com/c...ker01bo584.jpg
Ain't she a beaut? Perfect for cutting of all textiles, opening of boxes and letters, etc etc, in a very non-threatening safety-tipped package.

Now, farming's a bitch, no denying, and if you can daily carry a sword or whatever, go you. The civilized people who design all your farm equipment (brethren to myself) must choose significantly more discrete options for tools (Did you really insist that small tools aren't, somehow, tools, by the way?)

First scenario, you (or someone you love) is stuck in a car...let's make it an upside-down car, with the seatbelts jammed, and the gas slowly seeping towards the hot exhaust. In the first scenario, I get the above pictured Boker ResCom that I carry on my person at all times, and you get your bare hands (since you weren't intending on hurting someone that day), and we race to get away from the explodey car.

Second scenario, I get my rescom and you get your bayonette, and you have to get the seatbelt off without drawing blood. On your mark...get set... (don't forget the fire)...

There are other scenarios...opening retail packaging (I assume you use your teeth like god intended?), opening boxes (maybe all that milk you drink on your farm has given you Nails of Extreme Tape Penetration), shortening rope, (teeth again, or perhaps brute force?)

As far as prying, well, that's what the leatherman Micro on my keychain is for. Who pries with a blade?!

Redlemon 03-09-2009 12:25 PM

Twisted, what's that safety-tipped knife called?

phathom 03-09-2009 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Turpis (Post 2606092)
to everybody who has actually stabbed or been stabbed put your hand up...

*Puts both hands up*
I have been stabbed and have stabbed
It doesn't matter if you have a huge machette, or a 3" blade, when properly used for defense or offense, it will stop whoever your opposition is, A 3" blade might not kill them, but then again do you really want that on you, proving self defense is getting harder and harder to do these days. I say just carry whatever is best suited for your own needs, there is no one knife fits all, it's as individual as your underware choices.

telekinetic 03-09-2009 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Redlemon (Post 2606496)
Twisted, what's that safety-tipped knife called?

It's a Boker ResCom...it's designed by Chad Los Banos, a cool regular knife enthusiast-turned-designer from Hawaii, as part of his awesome SubCom series. It's as tiny as possible while still being practical. I'd love to have every single knife in the set, espcially the Wharcom and SubClaw:

Wharcom, with quarter for scale:
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9120/dscn2657zy3.jpg

Subclaw, held in hand:
http://www.noze-nuz.com/recenze/boke...law/SC%202.JPG

The designer posts frequently on a couple enthusiast boards, and is a really laid back cool guy. :thumbsup: For $30 a pop I can just barely justify not buying one of everything he's designed...I think if I were single I'd already have two of each!

AlphaFox830 03-25-2009 09:28 AM

Benchmade
 
I have carried a benchmade osborne 940 for about 10 years now. It's by far the best knife I've had, and like alot of the posters here... i'm a knife enthusiast.

I also like:
CRKT
Spyderco
KA-BAR
Victornox
Leatherman - TI

But those I generally dont use for EDC.

Happy shopping

Push-Pull 03-25-2009 05:50 PM

I have carried a Junglee Marshall for about 7 years now. Been clipped to my right hip pocket every time I go out. I love it, it's simple, and has been quite abused, including prying, turning screws, and even hammering, and still it carries on. Best part is, I can fully disassemble it and really clean it up, and when I get it back together, it snaps out with the slightest flick of the wrist.

Cynosure 03-26-2009 10:18 AM

Interesting thread.

Okay, let's assume you're stuck on a deserted island, like Tom Hank's character in Castaway. You open up one of those FedEx boxes, and out slides a knife.

Which knife would you want it to be? Remember, this will be your ONLY tool, for your duration on the island (which will be 1 to 2 years). At least, the only tool that you don't have to craft for yourself.

To make it harder, let's assume the knife costs $100 or less, retail.

telekinetic 03-26-2009 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Cynosure (Post 2614076)
Interesting thread.

Okay, let's assume you're stuck on a deserted island, like Tom Hank's character in Castaway. You open up one of those FedEx boxes, and out slides a knife.

Which knife would you want it to be? Remember, this will be your ONLY tool, for your duration on the island (which will be 1 to 2 years). At least, the only tool that you don't have to craft for yourself.

To make it harder, let's assume the knife costs $100 or less, retail.

Leatherman Wave--no contest!

If you're talking strictly knives, then the fixed blade I have with a compass on the butt and a survival kit with fishooks and line in the handle.

nomcat 03-26-2009 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by twistedmosaic (Post 2614107)
Leatherman Wave--no contest!

Ooooh I don't know, I could contest that! ;) Victorinox SwissTool over a Leatherman, for sure... I've had both and found the SwissTool to be better in almost every aspect.

Cynosure 03-26-2009 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by twistedmosaic (Post 2614107)
Leatherman Wave--no contest!

The bottle opener, can opener, wire stripper, screwdriver, and bit drivers on that knife are going to be pretty much useless, on that island. Furthermore, I think the knife blade itself is too small. If you insist on Leatherman, I think it would be better to go with one of their hunting knives (which is still keeping within the "pocket" knife category).

nomcat 03-27-2009 02:04 AM

For the island scenario I'd go for some form of kukri... something that you can use to hack down vegetation for shelter and still use for skinning etc.

Strange Famous 03-28-2009 12:05 PM

carrying a knife around in your pocket would equal grey days where I'm from.

on a desert island I'd take a Swiss Army Knife, since they have lots of tools built into one knife.

Slims 03-28-2009 08:38 PM

?? You can't even carry a pocket knife?

nomcat 03-29-2009 12:49 AM

In the UK, you can have a non-locking folder with a blade under 3 inches as your daily carry without problem (unless you're taking it into a bar or club!)... anything bigger, fixed, or that locks needs to have a good reason to be carried, ie. hunting, work etc.

Strange Famous 03-29-2009 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Slims (Post 2615428)
?? You can't even carry a pocket knife?

Some of the knives people are talking about here are certainly illegal and even on a first offence could get some grey days, because of the high profile of a number of stabbings involving people under 18, the police and govt are very hard into knife crime at the moment.

Basically anything can be an offensive weapon in certain circumstances, and some things are ALWAYS an offensive weapon in any circumstance.


The UK Law:

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it is illegal for any shop to sell a knife of any kind (including cutlery and kitchen knives) to anyone under the age of 18

it is generally an offence to carry a knife in public without good reason or lawful authority (for example, a good reason is a chef on the way to work carrying their own knives)

the maximum penalty for an adult carrying a knife is four years in prison and a fine of £5000

knives where the blade folds into the handle, like a Swiss Army Knife, aren't illegal as long as the blade is shorter than three inches (7.62 cms)

Offensive weapons

If a knife is used in a threatening way (even a legal knife, such as a Swiss Army knife), it is regarded as an 'offensive weapon' by the law. This is also the case with things like screwdrivers - once used in a threatening manner, they are treated as offensive weapons. It is an offence to carry an offensive weapon in a public place, if you don't have a reasonable excuse. This means that carrying something that could be viewed as an offensive weapon, and then using it in a threatening way, could mean that you are prosecuted. The penalty is up to four years' imprisonment and/or a fine.

There is a complete ban on the sale of certain types of knives categorised as offensive weapons, regardless of their use, these include:

flick knives - knives where the blade is hidden inside the handle and shoots out when a button is pressed; these are also called 'switchblades' or 'automatic knives'

butterfly knives - where the blade is hidden inside a handle that splits in two around it, like wings; the handles swing around the blade to open or close it

disguised knives - where the blade is hidden inside something like a belt buckle or fake mobile phone



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