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Teufel Hunden 03-01-2009 06:42 PM

Archers! Assemble!!!!
 
How many archers do we have on the site?!

I used to be an avid gun person, but when i came home from Iraq after my last deployment, i lost most of my interest in them. My family got me this beautiful recurve for Christmas that year (2006), and i fell in love immediately.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3583/...c78f12e2_o.jpg

I can lose all track of time shooting that thing. One time, i spent almost 5 hours. It's incredibly relaxing and focusing at the same time.

A few months later i picked up this bad boy for hunting, although, i think when i'm proficient enough with the recurve at unknown distances, i'll prefer to hunt with it.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3602/...80a86203_o.jpg

ratbastid 03-02-2009 07:35 AM

I did a semester of archery in college, as a P.E. credit. LOVED it.

I'm not much of a hunter (nothing against it, but I was raised in more a fishing family than a hunting family), but target shooting with a recurve is a very good time. Combines like that feel like cheating to me--I shot one in class for a couple days, and it just didn't feel like I was FEELING the bow, you know? I was accurate as hell with it, but it just didn't seem right--too much mechanical assistance.

Zeraph 03-02-2009 08:17 AM

Interesting, I'll have to give recurves a shot. I shoot my hunting bow every now and then, it's fun, but not enough to keep my practice regular.

genuinegirly 03-02-2009 08:30 AM

I did archery at several summer camps throughout the years, also archery was part of our junior high PE program. Always found shooting relaxing. Taxing on my muscles, but relaxing.
Never considered hunting with a bow.
Then again, I'm not a hunter.

Teufel Hunden 03-02-2009 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ratbastid (Post 2603199)
I did a semester of archery in college, as a P.E. credit. LOVED it.

I'm not much of a hunter (nothing against it, but I was raised in more a fishing family than a hunting family), but target shooting with a recurve is a very good time. Combines like that feel like cheating to me--I shot one in class for a couple days, and it just didn't feel like I was FEELING the bow, you know? I was accurate as hell with it, but it just didn't seem right--too much mechanical assistance.

I'm actually not much of a hunter either... it's been more of a recent development. Even when I was still into shooting guns all the time (growing up, and most of the years in the Marine Corps), I always kinda wanted to go, but I just wasn't feeling rifle hunting.

I agree that recurves give you more of that archer feeling. Once i got my compound sighted in, I only practice with it a couple times a month, where as i take out the recurve almost every day. It's one of the very few things these days in which I can get totally lost, and let go of all concept of time. I'm actually learning how to build my own warbow (medieval english long bow... 150lb draw), for that truly authentic feel. :D


EDIT: I'm jealous of all you guys who had this in PE. My schools through the years never offered anything nearly as fun.

Walt 03-02-2009 05:21 PM

Enjoy it while you can. Pretty soon it will be dubbed an "assault weapon" as it can easily police body armor, doesn't require any kind of registration to own, offers a quick follow-up shot and is quieter than a suppressed .22

Teufel Hunden 03-02-2009 05:43 PM

Uh, thanks for the input.

genuinegirly 03-06-2009 06:40 AM

Hey, guess what? Tt and I just ran across a free archery range in a nearby state park. We might just have to find a bow or two.

Zeraph 03-06-2009 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak (Post 2603478)
Enjoy it while you can. Pretty soon it will be dubbed an "assault weapon" as it can easily police body armor, doesn't require any kind of registration to own, offers a quick follow-up shot and is quieter than a suppressed .22

And requires about a 100 times more training to be anywhere near as deadly as some schmo with a gun. There are plenty of better offensive options out there than guns, but they all require way way WAY more training to be effective. So I highly doubt they'll ever classify a bow as an assault weapon.

MSD 03-06-2009 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak (Post 2603478)
Enjoy it while you can. Pretty soon it will be dubbed an "assault weapon" as it can easily police body armor, doesn't require any kind of registration to own, offers a quick follow-up shot and is quieter than a suppressed .22

I'm going to assume this is sarcasm, because it would be a lazy-ass troll.

Fun fact: When AG Holder spouted off about a new AWB, Pelosi was the one to say "We need to enforce the laws we have." God bless that little GMILF.

G5_Todd 03-06-2009 10:06 PM

i bow hunt as a hobby, i find it pretty relaxing and atleast this way the deer have a chance

prosequence 03-29-2009 05:07 PM

Always wanted to get into archery, this kind of rekindles that interest! Thanks

ArmyMan 03-30-2009 03:26 AM

Nice looking bow there. Even since my dad let me use his bow when I was younger I have wanted to get into archery (wouldn't hunt, only target practice). I remember not using any hand/wrist protection and hurting myself multiple times.

MSD 03-30-2009 08:05 AM

As recently as 3 years ago, my records for most bullseyes and highest number of bullseyes in high school still stood. I really need to get a nice recurve and a hay bale for the backyard, I was good at it and really enjoyed it.

Tully Mars 03-31-2009 01:28 AM

I bow hunted for years. Started bow hunted after climbing up out of a canyon one day to find two drunk rifle hunters had me in their scopes for a while. They thought it was funny as hell, I wasn't laughing. Ordered a Oneida Eagle from Cablea's after that season ended. I really enjoyed it. The woods are nearly empty during bow season. Bow hunters don't drive around with their bow sticking out the window and a bottle of jack on their laps waiting for a bull to hop out of the woods in front of them so they can drop it. They get out and "hump the brush" (totally different then humping the bush, btw)

Calling in a bull elk is a rush and one of the many things I miss living down here.

settie 03-31-2009 01:30 AM

I learned last year with my brother. Lots of fun. We got a hunting bow, and look to get another soon. We like to spend our time off at the local shooting range, practicing.
Its become a great hobby of mine. And it really strengthened my arms! Bonus.

Tully Mars 03-31-2009 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by settie (Post 2616855)
I learned last year with my brother. Lots of fun. We got a hunting bow, and look to get another soon. We like to spend our time off at the local shooting range, practicing.
Its become a great hobby of mine. And it really strengthened my farms! Bonus.

Stronger farms, never thought that would happen!

Daniel_ 03-31-2009 12:28 PM

I love archery, but have not done any in donkey's years. Anyone know of a range in southern England?

I'd like to give it a serious try and to show my daughter (currently 9 years old) abut it.

Question to TH - is a compound bow any different to use?

settie 03-31-2009 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tully Mars (Post 2616876)
Stronger farms, never thought that would happen!

awww damn, I missed that. THen again, I did post around 5am, heh.

to clarify:

farms=ARMS

Don't know how that F snuck in there...haha

Tully Mars 03-31-2009 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by settie (Post 2617254)
awww damn, I missed that. THen again, I did post around 5am, heh.

to clarify:

farms=ARMS

Don't know how that F snuck in there...haha

Yeah, well I'm really not the guy to point out tpyos... err I mean typos. I too was posting early. So just having some fun F'ing with ya!

Hope you didn't take offense, it was meant to be light hearted.

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Originally Posted by Daniel_ (Post 2617195)
Question to TH - is a compound bow any different to use?

I know you're addressing this Q elsewhere But let me just say yes. A recurve doesn't "breakdown." On a compound once you get it passed a breaking point it's much easier to hold it in the drawn position much longer. Almost every bow hunter I know uses a compound simply because they can hold it in the ready longer waiting for the game to be in just the right position.

settie 03-31-2009 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tully Mars (Post 2617302)
Yeah, well I'm really not the guy to point out tpyos... err I mean typos. I too was posting early. So just having some fun F'ing with ya!

Hope you didn't take offense, it was meant to be light hearted.

I know you're addressing this Q elsewhere But let me just say yes. A recurve doesn't "breakdown." On a compound once you get it passed a breaking point it's much easier to hold it in the drawn position much longer. Almost every bow hunter I know uses a compound simply because they can hold it in the ready longer waiting for the game to be in just the right position.

Haha, no offense taken, just mild embarrassment for a bit there. It passed :P

As for compound versus recurve, yeah, bang on Tully. That's why I prefer the recurve. I built up my resistance training, so its not so much a problem anymore. But I don't actually hunt with my bow, heh.

Tully Mars 03-31-2009 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by settie (Post 2617338)
Haha, no offense taken, just mild embarrassment for a bit there. It passed :P

As for compound versus recurve, yeah, bang on Tully. That's why I prefer the recurve. I built up my resistance training, so its not so much a problem anymore. But I don't actually hunt with my bow, heh.

You can build up resistance with a compound too, just up the torque and poundage. The pull, release, repeat.

When I first got my Eagle I torqued it up to the max and pulled on it thinking "no prob." Yeah, right! Took a few months to get where I could draw it up in one slow smooth motion. Slow steady motion is everything in Elk hunting (that and odor.) I swear they can see stuff behind them.

Chevy_Man_01 04-06-2009 04:55 PM

i didnt think i would ever find someone else who shoots a deer master recurve... I purchased one last year and love it... Have you ever tried shooting flu flus at aerial tragets? its a blast..

Teufel Hunden 04-15-2009 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel_ (Post 2617195)

Question to TH - is a compound bow any different to use?


Sorry for the late reply!

Yes, a compound is very different than a recurve or traditional longbow. Compounds have a "let off" at the end of the draw, so if you hold your shot, you're not actually holding the full weight of the bow. Mine has an 80% let off, so instead of 75lbs, it drops to 15lbs, which someone could hold for quite some time waiting for the perfect shot. Also, as others mentioned, you can adjust the draw weight to some degree. Mine goes from 60-75lbs.

Also, my recurve has no aiming device, so shooting it accurately takes TONS of practice and patience. The compound, however, the basic principles are the same as shooting a rifle, so within a few shots, you can be pretty on target.

Daniel_ 04-15-2009 11:20 AM

Thanks for the information, everyone. :thumbsup:

raptor9k 04-16-2009 01:28 PM

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Mime 04-16-2009 07:49 PM

Mine's a PSE Beast. Used for target shooting only. I also enjoy shooting with a recurve but don't currently own one

Plan9 04-16-2009 08:03 PM

Okay, let's say that this thread gave Crompsin a rangin' crotchbat and now he's interested in buying a no-frills-basic-but-not-obsolete-tomorrow bow.

I did archery for a while as a kid and was rather good, but guns replaced that the second I got a .30-06 in my shoulder pocket.

Bows: What should I look for? I'm interested in target shooting, but I could see myself eventually dropping a deer with one.

Teufel Hunden 04-20-2009 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crompsin (Post 2625017)
Okay, let's say that this thread gave Crompsin a rangin' crotchbat and now he's interested in buying a no-frills-basic-but-not-obsolete-tomorrow bow.

I did archery for a while as a kid and was rather good, but guns replaced that the second I got a .30-06 in my shoulder pocket.

Bows: What should I look for? I'm interested in target shooting, but I could see myself eventually dropping a deer with one.

It depends on what kind of experience you want to have whilst shooting your bow. :D

Both bows i own would be well suited for either of the types of shooting you want, and neither one would be obsolete tomorrow.

But, shooting a compound bow is similar in some ways to shooting a rifle. They even have a trigger release for the bow string, so you can get a consistent release every time. The sight generally has multiple pins for different distances, and overall shooting one of these bows has nothing to do with tradition beyond the fact that it's still Archery. Someone who has handled a rifle can pick up a compound bow, and have it all figured out within a few shots. They're very easy.

Recurves or longbows have no sights, and take MUCH more time to learn how to accurately shoot. Modern recurves have the advantage of some modern tweaks, but you can still find some that look exactly like they would have in the medieval period, and enjoy one of them. Without the trigger release, it's more difficult to get consistent releases, and is yet another skill that must be practiced.

Tully Mars 04-21-2009 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teufel Hunden (Post 2626606)
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But, shooting a compound bow is similar in some ways to shooting a rifle. They even have a trigger release for the bow string, so you can get a consistent release every time. The sight generally has multiple pins for different distances, and overall shooting one of these bows has nothing to do with tradition beyond the fact that it's still Archery. Someone who has handled a rifle can pick up a compound bow, and have it all figured out within a few shots. They're very easy.

That's not necessarily true. I switch back and forth between a hand held release system or "trigger" and finger release. Mainly because the one trigger release I really liked wore out and I couldn't find one that acted exactly the same. The last two season I hunted with a standard two finger glove. And yes I got my elk both years.

I also wouldn't say it's very easy. Certainly not as easy as shooting a scoped rifle. Compound do break down and are easier to hold in release position longer then a recurve. But it's not like shooting a firearm, there's an amount of stress involved in holding it in the release position.

Admittedly recurve is much more difficult then a compound. I never was very fond of recurves. But my goal was to get my elk. Using a recurve would have made that much more difficult.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Crompsin (Post 2625017)
Okay, let's say that this thread gave Crompsin a rangin' crotchbat and now he's interested in buying a no-frills-basic-but-not-obsolete-tomorrow bow.

I did archery for a while as a kid and was rather good, but guns replaced that the second I got a .30-06 in my shoulder pocket.

Bows: What should I look for? I'm interested in target shooting, but I could see myself eventually dropping a deer with one.


Check e-bay and the other usual suspects. I sold my bow on there for less then 25% of what I paid for it three years prior to selling it. Whoever bought it got a good deal, arrows, broadheads, practice tips, sights, stabilizer, case etc...

Hope they have a much fun with it as I did.

Teufel Hunden 04-21-2009 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tully Mars
I also wouldn't say it's very easy. Certainly not as easy as shooting a scoped rifle. Compound do break down and are easier to hold in release position longer then a recurve. But it's not like shooting a firearm, there's an amount of stress involved in holding it in the release position.

I never said a scoped rifle, actually i was meaning a non-scoped rifle. The principles of sight alignment and sight picture remain the exact same regardless of what's in your hands, as do the principles of breathing control, trigger control, etc. So yes, it's similar in some ways to shooting a rifle, and the obvious differences you pointed out are why i didn't say they're exactly the same. Also, i would say it's very easy to learn how to shoot a compound if you're familiar with rifles to begin with. I grew up shooting rifles, and i was in the Marine Corps Infantry for 7 years. When i first got the compound bow, it only took a few shots to get used to it, and a few more to sight it in, and only a few more after that to be shooting consistent tight groups.

raptor9k 04-21-2009 05:32 PM

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