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Flyguy 08-26-2004 11:49 AM

Internet access question....
 
I got to thinking and I was wondering. Why do we all need to go thorugh middlemen to access the internet? I mean, why can't we all build our own servers and just log on? How complicated can it really be? Is it a matter of bandwidth? Is it all the equipment involved? Isn't the internet supposed to be free? What is it that keeps up from doing this? Just wanted to get everyone's thoughts on this pondering thought.

soopafreek 08-26-2004 12:00 PM

it's all about the connections... and unfortunately, the middle men "own" them. telecom monopolies.

but yeah, you'd need a lot of equipment.

bendsley 08-26-2004 12:51 PM

Because Tier 1 internet providers charge royalty fees to "access" their networks. I don't think you want to pay these.

Tier 1 providers offer many benefits. Typically, a Tier 1 provider has SLAs (service-level agreements) which include 99.9 percent uptime guarantees, impressive security, continuous and clean power, and protection from fire, earthquakes, and other disasters. The impressive power of a Tier 1 provider is its backbone. They provide you clear passage while other providers may send you across the bumpy back roads. A Tier 1 provider takes you from the West Coast to the East Coast in one big hop, while others may pass you along to various locations across the United States. Also, a Tier 1 Provider's service is usually more costly then what a Tier 2 or Tier 3 Provider may charge, because the Tier 1 provider offers a very extensive network, security, reliability and quality service.

The list of major Tier 1 providers include: AT&T, Bell Atlantic, Bell South, Cable and Wireless, GTE, IBM, MCI (UUNet), Qwest and Sprint.

-- Tier 1 operators typically have operations in more than one country
-- Tier 1 operators own and operate their own physical networks, and either own or part-own their international submarine cable links.
-- Tier 1 operators have revenue-neutral peering agreements with other Tier 1 operators, and generally do not pay for transit.

mikec 08-28-2004 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyguy
I mean, why can't we all build our own servers and just log on? How complicated can it really be?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

oh man, thank you for the laugh, I needed that today!!!

/sarcasm

rukkyg 08-28-2004 10:22 AM

Just think how big the internet is and then think how it would cost money to make it. The people who made it made it so they'd make money, not so you could have free internet.

Cryptie 08-28-2004 05:46 PM

Imagine if your question had been "Why can't we build our own phone system", it's more or less a matter of the amount of connections that would have to be laid, and who owns the existing connections. And as to rukkyg's comment about it was made to make money, it wasn't, the greedy bastards came later

Cynthetiq 08-28-2004 05:49 PM

some one had to pay for the infrastucture and to maintain it. the government subsidized it for years... as did the education groups.

Sty 08-29-2004 09:47 AM

There's no middleman, it's all about networks owned by different entities interconnecting network blocks of different size (talking about IP only). You're part of that network, although your networks size is propably very small compared to the next leg.


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